> Are you sure the negotiations STARTED in 2001?

Yes, they started after Olaf "olsen" Barthel presented the public MorphOS to Amiga Inc. As was told in laire's notorious "party on" thread on ann.lu (and the related thread on amiga-news.de), there were two negotiation processes, the first one in spring 2001 and the second and final one in summer 2001.

> I was always under the impression they were ongoing
> for a while prior and just fell apart in 2001.

I'm just going by what the MorphOS developers told in public. If you know differently, then feel free to share your knowledge.

> To get a computer (minus monitor) would be well over $2k.

Complete X5000/20 system including Enhancer Software Plus Edition is currently $1920 at AmigaKit.

>> What would the causes of action be?

> You should know this better than me

Well, I don't.

> you bookmark everything

No, I bookmark virtually nothing.

> So many things that have been marketed about OS4 have never come true

As you well know, future plans do not constitute a cause of action. The OS4 customers paid for whatever OS4 was at the time of purchase.

> Didn't every buyer of the X1000 get promised a free copy of AmigaOS 4.2?

Yes, they did, by A-Eon/AmigaKit, that is. Again no cause of action against Hyperion. And as far as I'm aware, A-Eon/AmigaKit didn't mention any time frame for this, and OS4.2 has not been released yet, with or without the once announced features.

My case is more strange, after of work with my Amiga500 updated, I begun with MorphOS because I bough one Efika but never I got install MorphOS, one time I got see the MorphOS boot pic only, and after appeared in the market the SamEp440 and I started with the OS4 and yes I was one ultra of OS4, after of have much but very much problems with the Sams because I bought three, I got of first hand my first MacMini when MorphOS started to run in this machine and since then until now, I have the two Sams like that is the AmigaOS4 the state of the art like ornament, well my Sam460ex of rack because it has problems of crashes and I'm happy with the MorphOS that I use for the browser and the PTP program transfer, I leave the OS4 sect, where only they got money from their faithful wwith strange little tricks, for that the best option to beginners is MorphOS, you can buy one mac of second hand for little money and test the system before to pay for it, the OS4 not there are these two options, buy one Sam and cross your fingers or one expensive X500xx and the OS4 is of pay not there is a demo version and the updates too of course, even the drivers.
MorphOS the best option to start in the Amiga world.

> there are these two options, buy one Sam [...] or one expensive X500xx

New Sam4x0 haven't been available for years, so it's currently just the X5000. And if we are to include used hardware, there's way more than just the Sam4x0.

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My Sams were of first hand, and it is normal that Sams aren't in the market currently with the hardware problems that they have, of four only one go fine the 25%.

>>> there are these two options, buy one Sam [...] or one expensive X500xx

>> if we are to include used hardware, there's way more than just the Sam4x0.

> it is normal that Sams aren't in the market currently

...same goes for the Eyetech AmigaOnes, the Pegasos II and the AmigaOne X1000. These are among the options for used OS4 hardware.

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You're missing the point. He's an owner of four, of which one one actually worked. Apparently the production problems were even worse than publicly known, which was bad to begin with.

>>>>> there are these two options, buy one Sam [...] or one expensive X500xx

>>>> if we are to include used hardware, there's way more than just the Sam4x0.

>>> it is normal that Sams aren't in the market currently

>> ...same goes for the Eyetech AmigaOnes, the Pegasos II and the
>> AmigaOne X1000. These are among the options for used OS4 hardware.

> You're missing the point.

Reread comments #18 and #19 to see who was missing whose point.

@meguca

And get used to the constant squabbling as it is all part of the "experience" around here.
Welcome!

I will also throw out the fact that the Tabor is now going up for sale so that will be cause for more OS4 / Hyperion / A-eon bashing.. (I am part of the "Early Adopter Program")

So please feel free to bash away!

LOL

Things never change.

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No "squabbling" here, except maybe you. He asked how we found out about this platform, and the history of "Amiga" and "Next Gen" is part of that. Some here like me gave the cliff notes, and A_W likes to correct what he sees as inaccuracies. A_W is right more often than not, so I don't see the problem. You might not like the history, but history is history.

[ Edited by redrumloa 16.02.2020 - 19:18 ]

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Looks like you are technically correct, for 2020. The US Dollar has strongly strengthened against the British pound (and Euro) in recent years.