Whats going to kill me first?
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    Posts: 100 from 2009/10/26
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    Well Ive had my mac mini afew days now and have enjoyed playing around with Morphos. So I ordered my keyfile tonight so now I,m thinking whats going to kill me first?

    1) Waiting for my keyfile
    2) the other half when she finds out i,ve ordered a keyfile :-P
    Mini Mac G4 1.25, 1gb ram, 40 gig hdd, Registered Morphos 2.6.
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    tokai
    Posts: 1289 from 2003/2/25
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    Since you already can use it (limited, but usable) the waiting really shouldn't be the problem.

    And the other issue you can solve by letting your wife participate in your hobby; aka install something cute like MisterBanana or Elephant or let their play Shuffle. Carefully though, sometimes you wont get much time on your own computer if someone else is using it constantly; also you can't savely store your adult video collection on the box then or you need to 'protect' it with Kryptos. ;-)

    Hope the tips help.
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    Jambalah
    Posts: 820 from 2008/3/30
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    The third case scenario:
    your gentle half that that throw your Mac mini under a caterpillar once she discovered all. The worst....
    :-)
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    amiades
    Posts: 231 from 2005/6/2
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    Loooooool!! pa?olada!! xDDDDDDDD

    Congrats for the license, anyway :) You won't regret XDDDD
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    Ruud
    Posts: 335 from 2009/2/2
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    Great move you won't regret it... unless your other half finds out of course.
    What you'll have to do is keep moaning about having to reset every half an hour to put her off the scent :-D
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  • »06.11.09 - 09:22
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    Posts: 100 from 2009/10/26
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    Alot of good points there :-) but I'm a biker and the 30minute time out did'nt agree with me atall :-)

    So I've got the answer to my question, it was a close call but the 1hr and 15min wait did'nt kill me 8-) (so thank you to the person that sent the file)

    The other half just gave me that look, I'm sure all you other guys know about that look! :-o

    I'll buy her something and that will keep her sweet, until I think about buying pixel.
    Mini Mac G4 1.25, 1gb ram, 40 gig hdd, Registered Morphos 2.6.
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    Posts: 335 from 2009/2/2
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    I bought my Girlfriend a Mazda MX5 (not a new one, I hasten to add) it hasn't kept her as sweet as I hoped ;-)
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    Jambalah
    Posts: 820 from 2008/3/30
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    I bought myself a new girlfriend. And this kept my real calm..... :-D
    Kidding! No problems with my little half ;)
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    Buying girlfriends or wives stuff just to make them happy, or because you feel guilty for buying yourself something that you wanted is a sure course to disaster. If you really can't afford the license fee, don't buy it until you can, but spending even more money to satisfy your other half, or just to ease your guilt, only makes financial situation worse.

    For the guy that bought his girlfriend a car to make her sweeter, Buwahaha! ROFLMAO If that is what it takes to make your girlfriend nice to you, you might as well get rid of her now and find a high class prostitute when you are horny.

    To all of you married guys, watch out for wives that ask for a bigger diamond, silicon boobs and a new car. Once they have all of that the next thing you will be getting from her is your divorce papers so she can move on to the next sucker that has even more money to spend on her. (not that this has happened to me, but I have seen in happen to more than one friend)

    Congrats on getting your MOS2.4 license! Running MorphOS2.4 on the MacMini is great. Looking forward to MorphOS2.5 with a few bug fixes and faster ethernet connection speed.
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  • »06.11.09 - 22:23
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    Granada
    Posts: 32 from 2003/12/30
    What will kill me is the fact that MorphOS is quite unusable even for Amigans that did not leave the system for more than 10 years. MOS installed fine and without any problems on my Mac Mini G4, but I am totally unable to get Tubexx to work. It starts with the impossible job to download the MOS-SDK, the only things that can be found are the inludes. The ReadMe of Tubexx is made for users that totally understand every single bit of the OS - I do not (anymore).

    And Tubexx was just the first thing I wanted to get to work after the installation of the OS ...

    This will kill me in the end. My girlfriend does not care about having spent 150 Euros for an unusable OS ...
    Mac Mini G4, 1.5GHz, MorphOS 2.7
  • »07.11.09 - 09:24
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    Posts: 766 from 2003/2/28
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    Granada wrote:
    What will kill me is the fact that MorphOS is quite unusable even for Amigans that did not leave the system for more than 10 years. MOS installed fine and without any problems on my Mac Mini G4, but I am totally unable to get Tubexx to work.

    So it's not so much a problem with MorphOS as a specific application, ok.
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    It starts with the impossible job to download the MOS-SDK, the only things that can be found are the inludes.

    It's not entirely impossible, a link with a temporary location has been posted in several threads here, and just for you, here it is again.
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    The ReadMe of Tubexx is made for users that totally understand every single bit of the OS - I do not (anymore).

    And Tubexx was just the first thing I wanted to get to work after the installation of the OS ...

    Be sure to let the author of Tubexx know then.
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    [ the guy that bought his girlfriend a car to make her sweeter, Buwahaha! ROFLMAO If that is what it takes to make your girlfriend nice to you, you might as well get rid of her now and find a high class prostitute when you are horny.


    Don't worry Dave I was joking - It was her 30th birthday and she's wanted that model mazda for about 10 years. However extra sweetness as a side-effect would have been nice ;-)
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    > I am totally unable to get Tubexx to work. It starts with the impossible job to
    > download the MOS-SDK

    While the MorphOS SDK is easily to be obtained for someone who is able to use the MorphZone search function you don't even need the SDK for Tubexx.

    Grep is available from Aminet in m68k version:
    http://aminet.net/package/dev/gg/grep-2.5-bin-m68k

    MorphOS native wget is available from tokai's old page or from Aminet:
    http://www.christianrosentreter.com/releases/ports.php
    http://aminet.net/package/comm/tcp/wget-1.9.1-morphos
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    Posts: 746 from 2007/4/22
    Maybe you should get one of these:-

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220500931916&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

    and say you've got a Mac Pro, a little one ;-)

    Anyway, I can talk, I've just been playing eBay chicken and have ended up with another Mac Mini, a 1.5GHz (meh) and 64 Graphics card. Oopsie... :-D
  • »07.11.09 - 11:06
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    Posts: 461 from 2003/7/21
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    Granada wrote:
    The ReadMe of Tubexx is made for users that totally understand every single bit of the OS - I do not (anymore).

    Maybe someone might helpyou, if just we could understand what is so difficult in installing Tubexx... BTW, links to the required softwares (aprt from the SDK, but that has been already solved) are provided in the online documentation that should be accessible by clicking on Documentation - or directly here:
    http://www.webalice.it/pgermano/tubexx/main.html
    (btw, googling for tubexx was enough).

    Kind regards,
    Andrea
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    Posts: 12163 from 2003/5/22
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    > the required softwares (aprt from the SDK, but that has been already solved)

    As I wrote, and opposed to the readme, nothing from the SDK is needed.

    > the online documentation that should be accessible by clicking on Documentation -
    > or directly here: http://www.webalice.it/pgermano/tubexx/main.html (btw, googling
    > for tubexx was enough).

    3rd option: pasting the URL from the readme
    4th option: visiting website from within Tubexx
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    Ruud
    Posts: 335 from 2009/2/2
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    @stephen_robinson

    Umm...I've ordered two of those enclosures. Must have had a rush of blood to the head. If my girlfriend had been sweeter to me it wouldn't have happend if you know what I mean ;-)
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    kriz
    Posts: 309 from 2005/10/18
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    just give the misses some flowers and a dinner or something like that.. it doesnt have to be hard, but some need diamonds and gold also hahaha :)
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    Granada wrote:
    What will kill me is the fact that MorphOS is quite unusable even for Amigans that did not leave the system for more than 10 years. MOS installed fine and without any problems on my Mac Mini G4, but I am totally unable to get Tubexx to work. It starts with the impossible job to download the MOS-SDK, the only things that can be found are the inludes. The ReadMe of Tubexx is made for users that totally understand every single bit of the OS - I do not (anymore).

    And Tubexx was just the first thing I wanted to get to work after the installation of the OS ...

    This will kill me in the end. My girlfriend does not care about having spent 150 Euros for an unusable OS ...


    I see from your signature lines that you also own a Pegasos with MorphOS1.4 on it, so I am surprised to read that you think that MorphOS2.4 is an "unusable OS"? I am a fairly new MorphOS user myself and I have some problems getting applications installed and running this GREAT little OS sometimes. That is no reason to regret your purchase, or talk down the OS itself. Contact the authors of the programs you are having trouble getting to work and let them know.

    I have decided to make it a project of mine to write installer scripts for programs that I find that need additional libraries, or other files that are not included with their downloads. It is one of the few things I can do to help out the MorphOS users.

    I haven't tried to install Tubexx yet, but if I get a chance to do it tonight, I'll try to write down all the steps needed and give you a hand getting it to work on your system. Asking for help usually works out better than coming here and saying that MorphOS is unusable.
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  • »08.11.09 - 00:27
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    kriz
    Posts: 309 from 2005/10/18
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    tubexx was not hard to install, just follow the requirements.. takes alittle time, but no problems...
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    kriz wrote:
    tubexx was not hard to install, just follow the requirements.. takes alittle time, but no problems...


    You have got to be kidding! Maybe for programmers, or Linux users that are used to compiling their own Linux/Unix packages. I have just downloaded all of the extras needed by TubeXX and read all of the Readme files for each of them and for TubeXX itself and have almost no idea of what to install first, where to put the files I have extracted, which files that I have extracted are needed, or if the entire directory must be placed somewhere with a path that points TubeXX to them?

    I am sure all of this is very easy for most MorphOS users and certainly for the developers, but for new MorphOS users and the majority of the Amiga users that might soon become MorphOS users, I don't think there are many that will understand the directions on how to install and use TubeXX.

    I guess this is what the Grandpa was complaining about and now that I see the number of files needed and the lack of installation instructions that are clear and user friendly, I have to agree with him. The installation instructions for TubeXX that say it is simple to install and use AFTER you have all of the required files needed installed is not useful if the required files needed do not have their own installation instructions for MorphOS users. It is clear that the majority of these files are Linux/Unix files that have been recompiled for use on MorphOS, but what is not clear (at least not to me) is that when I extract the files with lha to RAM, I appear to get a bunch of files and instructions on how to compile the file I need, not a precompiled file that is ready to use with MorphOS. I may be wrong, but the instructions are not clear at all and as I am not a developer, or someone that is used to compiling programs or packages for Linux/Unix or any other OS, it is all as clear as MUD!

    I am sure I will figure it out, sooner or later, but the point is that I should not have to figure it out, there should be clear instructions on how to install all of the files needed to use on a MorphOS system, or better yet, the program that needs all of these extra files to work should have an installation script that checks to see if the needed files are already installed on my MorphOS computer and if not found, the installation script should download them, or have the latest versions included in the TubeXX download and it should install all of the needed files and configure TubeXX to know where they are placed so it is ready to use as soon as the installation script is finished.

    These are the kinds of installation scripts I plan to create as my project to support and promote the MorphOS community. If anyone who is more knowledgable than I knows any reason that this cannot be done, please let me know before I waste my time researching and working on such a project.

    I think TubeXX will be my first project, or one of the first few. I might start on a simpler program that only needs one or two external files or programs to make it work.
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  • »08.11.09 - 02:42
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    kriz
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    hmm i havent compiled anything .. The readme just lists the requirements right ?

    " Tubexx requires:
    - MorphOS 1.4.5 or higher
    - ARexx (you might need to copy the rexxsyslib.library from AmigaOS 3.x in MOSSYS:Libs/)
    - MUI4 + 4 external classes: MCC_BetterBalance, MCC_HTMLview, MCC_TheBar, MCC_Urltext
    - RxMUI 42.2 or higher
    - MPlayer and MEncoder 1.0+
    - xsltproc 6.2
    - grep 2.5 (part of the MorphOS SDK)
    - wget 1.9.1 (also part of the MorphOS SDK)
    - HTTPResume 1.9"

    so aminet.net and google is the help here.. For the mui classes: http://www.zerohero.se/mui/
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    kriz wrote:
    hmm i havent compiled anything .. The readme just lists the requirements right ?

    " Tubexx requires:
    - MorphOS 1.4.5 or higher
    - ARexx (you might need to copy the rexxsyslib.library from AmigaOS 3.x in MOSSYS:Libs/)
    - MUI4 + 4 external classes: MCC_BetterBalance, MCC_HTMLview, MCC_TheBar, MCC_Urltext
    - RxMUI 42.2 or higher
    - MPlayer and MEncoder 1.0+
    - xsltproc 6.2
    - grep 2.5 (part of the MorphOS SDK)
    - wget 1.9.1 (also part of the MorphOS SDK)
    - HTTPResume 1.9"

    so aminet.net and google is the help here.. For the mui classes: http://www.zerohero.se/mui/


    Maybe I over reacted with my prior post, but I still have not finished figuring out how to install all of the components needed.

    Did you even bother to read the rest of my message? I have all of the above files and programs downloaded and extracted to RAM.

    I am running MorphOS2.4, so the first requirement is met.

    ARexx libraries are already in my Sys:/Libs drawer.

    I have:

    rexxapp.library
    rexxarplib.library
    rexxdossupport.library
    rexxhost.library
    rexxmathlib.library
    rexxreqtools.library
    rexxserdev.library
    rexxsupport.library
    rexxsyslib.library
    rexxtools.library
    rexxtricks.library

    MUI4 external classes I can handle

    RxMUI 42.2 had an installer, so that one I can't complain about.

    I had already installed MPlayer, which includes MEncoder, so I don't have to do anything regarding that except from what I read, TubeXX will need to know where MPlayer & MEncoder are located.

    xsltproc 6.2 did not have an installer or good documentation so I just put it in my Sys:/C directory

    grep 2.5 I got from aminet and it is a 68k.lha, so I don't know if I have the right one since you stated that it is in the MorphOS SDK. It has bad documentation with no installation instructions and I had to look in it's bin directory to find a grep file, which I copied to my Sys:/C directory

    wget 1.9.1 I downloaded from www.christianrosentreter.com and it is clearly labeled for morphos. The Readme file is for Linux/Unix people and just explains what it is. The Install file is a long list that starts off like this:

    Installation Procedure

    0) Preparation

    To build and install GNU Wget, you need to unpack the archive (which you have presumably done, since you are reading this), and read on. Like most GNU utilities, Wget uses the GNU Autoconf nechanism for build and installation; those of you familiar with compiling GNU software will feel at home.

    1) Configuration

    To configure Wget, run the ..........

    Where are the installation instructions for using this with MorphOS? Oh, to top it off, the file named "MACHINES" that lists all of the computer platforms that Wget has been compiled for in the past does not even list MorphOS, although it does list "Amiga NetBSD (m68k-cbm-netbsd1.2)".

    Lastly, HTTPResume 1.9 did have a nice AmigaGuide document in it's "Docs" directory, so I copied it also to my Sys:/C directory and put it's guide in my Sys:/Docs drawer.

    Now I think I should be ready to run Tubexx (which I have copied to my Utilities drawer), so I double click on it and I get a system error which says "ARexx reimplementation is not yet finished, if you want to use ARexx, please install your original rexxsyslib.library..."

    So, I pull out my OS3.9 CD and copy the rexxsyslib.library from it to my Sys:/Libs drawer and try again. Same result, so I go looking for a RexxMast program to put into my WBStartup drawer like I used to have to do in AmigaOS3.9 to run ARexx scripts, or was that in OS3.1 or earlier that I had to start ARexx before it would work? Anyway, I can't find anything like it in MorphOS, so I need some help.

    Edit: I can start Wookie Chat which uses ARexx with no problems or error messages about ARexx not being implemented, so I am puzzled about the error message I get when trying to run Tubexx for the first time so I can configure it and start using it with OWB.

    I am using MorphOS2.4 on my MacMini alot now and wish to be able to see YouTube videos. Also, is there a Flash plug-in for OWB like the one for IBrowse, or an even better one?




    [ Edited by amigadave on 2009/11/7 23:09 ]
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    Hi, you must rename or delete the MorphOS original mossys:libs/rexxsyslib.library else he will not use the sys:libs/rexxsyslib.library you copied from the Amiga cd.
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