Hey all, a new, Morphos registered user here. I have to say I love the look and feel of the MorphOS, but it is giving me headaches for the past few days, so I hope I can use your help here?

Thing is.. I registered MorphOS, all fine there.

Then I went ahead and installed the UltimatePack http://www.meta-morphos.org/download/pack/installpack.lha

and things went nuts so I hope I can get some help here - total noob, so please be patient with me.

The installation part.. I guess choosing "SYS" as the installation path by default is ok?

I did that, but then the extracting part goes all wrong.. somewhere in the middle of the extaction, I get this message:

VOLUME SYSTEM IS FULL

RETRY CANCEL

Since retry doesn't work, I choose Cancel, but that causes errors of course and the system does not work properly afterwards.

So, a total noob question here...

How can the volume system be full?! I just installed a fresh OS, and I remember when installing the OS, I got the message:

Device name: DH1
Capacity: 511 MB
Free Space: 511 MB

Is that ok or am I missing something here?

Again, total begginer here MorphOS wise, so I hope it is ok to ask these here and someone can help, because I am sick of re-installing the OS for the X-th time, only to get another error and multiple crashes again.

Thanks for anything that can help and I really appreciate it.

NB

Haven't installed that pack, but obviously it is too big for your sys: partition (there is mich, much stuff inside that package).
Either make sys: a bigger partitition or install that pack to another (bigger) partition (there should be some partition called work: and that one is usually a big one).


[ Editiert durch Zylesea 09.01.2012 - 21:15 ]

Thanks for a quick reply Zylesea. I tried that too, to install to WORK partition, but then it did not work at all, and everything was basically duplicated.. like Applications, Games, etc... drawers were duplicated, the original ones in the SYS drawer and then the new ones in the WORK partition, so that is not a path to choose I guess? Or am I totally missing the point on how to do this?

How do I increase the SYS partition? And can it be increased "as you go" in the future too, when/if need be?

Is there a manual on how to do all this somewhere? And how do I create a dock at the bottom of the screen? Where can I learn all this, I am eager to learn but cannot find anthing, please help a noob here.

Thanks again!

[ Edited by nobrainer 09.01.2012 - 20:20 ]

What are your hardware specs? What machine and hard drive size? Is there only MorphOS on yor machine?

Fear not many on the board happy to help

Hey osco, thanks.

Apple Mac Mini G4 Desktop - Customized M9971B/B 320Gb Hd, 1GB RAM
Model Number A1103

Yes, only MorphOS installed.

Thanks again, I love MorphOS, but find it hard to find resources to learn on my own and not have to bother you guys here, sorry.

[ Edited by nobrainer 09.01.2012 - 20:30 ]

i have the mini as well and that is the largest Hard drive supported?
Have you tries system tools and see how yor drive is partitioned?

Morphzone has a great LIBRARY, Look at the menu bar at the top of the page

See how your drive is partitioned by going to system/tools/mount?

No, you cannot increase the partition "as you go", but only fixed. To setup harddisks (make partitions and such stuff) you need to use the tool HDConfig which is located at sys:tools/

If you are ona Mac computer and your aim is to have a dual boot setup with OS X, it is better to usesOS X for partitioning, because OS X requires some special micro partitions (padding partitions) to work correctly (dunno why though).

On a Mac computer you need one really small one that is formated with the HFS file system (my HFS partition is 60MB small) which holds MorphOS' boot.img file.
For the rest of your hd you are free to partitition it however you like. I favor three partitions and use the sfs file system for all partitions, some prefer pfs, if you have big files you should use ext2/3.
One rather small one (say 1-5 GB) called sys: for the OS. Another bit bigger one called f.ex work: (a few dozen GBs) for applications and at least one huge one (data:) for data (music, photos, video).


[ Editiert durch Zylesea 09.01.2012 - 21:41 ]

Curious How did you come to MorphOS?

The HD is 320GB and as far as I know that is the largest HD supported, yes.

If I remember correctly, I have read somewhere that the largest partition can be 128GB so the OS creates 2 partitions when installing? I don't know..

This is how my 2 partitions are right now:

DH1 SYSTEM 511MB
DH2 WORK 127GB

I guess something is wrong how this 320GB HD is partitioned during the installation part? Has someone experienced this?

I will look into library if I can find something, thanks again for all the help guys, really greatful.

Open sys:tools/hdtoolbox I assume the bigger part of your hd isn't neither partitioned, mounted nor formated.
As you system is not matured, but really fresh you are safe to play with the hd settings - it's easy to mess things up, but with the fresh installation you don't lose anything.
Ext2/3 can handle bigger partitions AFAIK (I don't use big partitions, biggest one is 80G, hence I use sfs)

Fear not more better qualified will enter your thread. Dimly in my memory there were limits 100gb for a partition in a certain file system. I think your paritioning should be more balanced Data: 100gb WORK: 100gb System:40gb Boot 1gb Extra:79gb

osco,
Quote:

I assume you already know the answer to that question :D I a looking for the OS and I think I just found it. I've learned about MorphOS couple months ago, after reading some post about Amiga somewhere and after reading a couple articles and watching a few youtube videos about MorphOS, I knew I had to have this OS.. and now I'm here, bothering with stupid questions hahah.. promise, won't do it much longer.

Hmmm, I will look into this, hopefully I can fix this soon. Off to try fix this, thanks again very much guys!

> if you have big files you should use ext2/3.

...or IceFS.

Suggestion
Try http://library.morph.zone/Dual-boot_MorphOS_and_MacOS_X_on_a_Mac_Mini_G4

Since you are in an almost new installation you won't lose anything by starting afresh.

Welcome to MorphZone.org nobrainer.

Yes, you are correct that the 320gb PATA drive is the largest supported hard drive that can be used in a G4 MacMini, or the G4 PowerBooks.

The standard installation process for MorphOS2.7 sets up the partition sizes you have shown, so you did not do anything wrong. The SFS file system used in the standard install only supports partitions sizes of up to 127gb, or maybe it is 128gb. You can manually set up more partitions, if you do a new installation using the manual partition set up, instead of the automatic installation.

Or you can use a different file system as some others have suggested, which can handle larger partition sizes. The new ICE file system is now available for free, and it can use larger partition sizes and is faster (I think it is faster).

Ask all the questions you want. That is what these forums are for, discussing questions about MorphOS.

Hopefully soon will be a new version of MorphOS 3.0 "a free upgrade" and an explosion of new users. I think this board will be bombarded with "NooB's"

Hi nobrainer,

i've seen only now your question.

About Ultimate pack:

Installer ask you many questions as

What destination for Ultimate ? Work: is recommended
What destination for Applications ? Work: is recommended
What destination for Games ? Work: is recommended
What destination for Emulators ? Work: is recommended
What destination for archives to download ? Ram: is recommended

Assignations are automaticaly configured after installation.

I will modify installer script and change SYS: to Work as defaut path, i think it will be better for noobs

I will go prepare pack Ultimate for MorphOS 3.0, don't hesitate to do suggestions

With help from all of you good people I have succeeded finally.. increased the default 511MB SYS partition to 5GB and installed the Ultimate Pack and now looking forward to crash this as many times as possible.

Lots to learn still, but I can proudly say that Butterfly just flew out the Windows.. pun intended!

Thanks again for all the help, I'm sure I'll be back with more questions soon. :D

[ Edited by nobrainer 10.01.2012 - 19:29 ]