Why would I install 4.1 on my Peg2?
  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    serge
    Posts: 725 from 2003/2/20
    It's now ok to print from wordworth at home. I needed to install it another time from original CD.

    So, now I have AmigaWriter + Wordworth working and printing. + A command line tool to convert *.doc files to amiga compatible format.

    Last step to be free on a standalone Morphos computer is to save my documents in word format.

    This last feature is at this time the only one which needs something like X11 and Abiword. But maybe it's existing a tool to convert wordworth or amigawriter documents to .doc format.

    Next application needing attention and work to be able to print is turbocalc.
  • »08.02.09 - 15:48
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    serge
    Posts: 725 from 2003/2/20
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    magnetic wrote:
    Hi guys

    I'm thinking of ordering Amiga os 4.1 for my peg2. Mainly for the cool and fun factor.

    My question to you all is this:

    What can I run on Os 4.1 I cant on Morphos 2.2? Is there any programs that run better or faster? Is euae built into os4.1? Please advise.

    I havent followed OS4 development for some time..


    Thanks




    dont know if it will run succesfully on pegasos/AmigaOS4.1 but I whish to get FPSE with OpenGL plugin.

    I run FPSE sometimes to play R-Type-Delta. This is playable on software render only, but should be real faster with hardware render.
    I'm realy curious about this.
  • »08.02.09 - 17:18
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  • jPV
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    Posts: 2096 from 2003/2/24
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    serge wrote:
    Last step to be free on a standalone Morphos computer is to save my documents in word format.

    This last feature is at this time the only one which needs something like X11 and Abiword. But maybe it's existing a tool to convert wordworth or amigawriter documents to .doc format.


    Why not save documents as RTF? Practically all Amiga's word processors can save to it and Micro$oft's programs will read it too.
  • »08.02.09 - 18:43
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  • tom
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    Posts: 147 from 2003/7/22
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    In Pagestream, really the best DTP-program there is for the Amiga or Morphos, far better then Wordworth and Writer, you can save in PDF. Online you can convert it ot DOC. (e.g.http://www.pdfonline.com/ )

    Regards Tom
  • »08.02.09 - 21:25
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    serge
    Posts: 725 from 2003/2/20
    @ jPV:

    RTF is not too rich for me.
    It looses all the time the work I do on layout.
    No colors, no pictures, no tables.

    I cant create rich documents which are possible with wordworth or amigawriter, then destroying them saving my work under this poor format.

    @ tom:

    your sollution is interesting. I'll try it but on a first time, I have to get PageStream. I never bought it :-(

    Tryed the converter and it's realy good. Not perfect, but much better than saving in RTF from Wordworth.

    It seems RTF saving in wordworth is very basicaly supported.

    [ Edited by serge on 2009/2/9 12:19 ]
  • »09.02.09 - 10:07
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  • MorphOS Developer
    itix
    Posts: 1520 from 2003/2/24
    From: Finland
    FW97 had quite good support for RTF (I recall...) but the software on PC could not read it well. Fault of PC or Amiga, does not matter, RTF is not usable file format in my opinion...
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  • »09.02.09 - 13:46
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    magnetic
    Posts: 2129 from 2003/3/1
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    You guys are right. RTF loses formatting. This makes it rather pointless does it not?

    Looks like Pagestream is the option and AFAIk they still sell it.

    I think they layout Total Amiga with it.
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  • »09.02.09 - 22:25
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    Krashan
    Posts: 1107 from 2003/6/11
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    I agree that OS4-depot looks very nice, and it's one of the few things that I have evy for. Lukas' software index for MorphOS is great, but it's not in the same category, although it's just as useful.

    I wanted to improve my PHP and SQL skills and did this. Far from finished, but writing the engine was real fun + education. All files are hosted locally (no more non-working links), I have 20 GB of disk space for files (for now). You may be sure I will extend the engine with missing functionality soon.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    analogkid
    Posts: 667 from 2004/11/3
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    With Google Docs you are able to create and edit Word files, and with latest OWB you could also use it under MorphOS. Surely it's no full replacement for a full-featured word processor, but it's better than nothing.
  • »22.04.09 - 08:41
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    thx krashan for this site. looks promising!
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  • »22.04.09 - 09:55
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Ruud
    Posts: 335 from 2009/2/2
    From: Hampshire, UK
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    Krashan wrote:
    I agree that OS4-depot looks very nice, and it's one of the few things that I have evy for. Lukas' software index for MorphOS is great, but it's not in the same category, although it's just as useful.

    I wanted to improve my PHP and SQL skills and did this. Far from finished, but writing the engine was real fun + education. All files are hosted locally (no more non-working links), I have 20 GB of disk space for files (for now). You may be sure I will extend the engine with missing functionality soon.


    Nice work!
    I'd been thinking about proposing a project for a MorphOS equivelent to os4depot. It's very useful having virtually all files/apps in one place. I think it would make things easier for new users.
    I would offer my help but as I'm no web developer I don't know how I could be of any use.
    If you wanted to expand the site into a full on archive maybe I could purchase a domain name as a contribution?
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  • »22.04.09 - 15:45
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    Posts: 1107 from 2003/6/11
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    I've added some features like paging for search result and category browsing and some nicer header (I want to avoid heavy graphics, as I want to keep the page fast). There is also more files...

    Update: Fixed layout bugs on Windows browsers (checked with Opera and MSIE 6).

    [ Edited by Krashan on 2009/4/23 6:59 ]
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    TrevorDick
    Posts: 130 from 2005/10/12
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    Why would I install 4.1 on my Peg2?

    Because you can! ;-)

    TrevorD
  • »22.04.09 - 21:45
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    Krashan
    Posts: 1107 from 2003/6/11
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    If you wanted to expand the site into a full on archive maybe I could purchase a domain name as a contribution?

    Well, it becomes a full featured archive. It has search, it has recent, it has browsing by category (click on category of any file), the next thing is to add a page with category tree (not very difficult). The site had it's first professional security audit (two security holes found and fixed, not critical, but anyway) :-).

    I plan to add a form, where users can propose a file to be added. I rather prefer quality over quantity however. Not every SDL game port or 5-lines "killer app" is worth archiving (of course there are some great SDL games, some are in the archive already). I also do not plan to archive music modules, pictures, "Bible in AmigaGuide" stuff etc., Aminet is full enough of these. Only MorphOS software, with exception for 68k applications working well on MorphOS and having no native counterparts.

    Of course a domain would be a very welcomed contribution. I can set up a virtual host on Apache server then.
  • »23.04.09 - 06:11
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Ruud
    Posts: 335 from 2009/2/2
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    Krashan wrote:
    Of course a domain would be a very welcomed contribution. I can set up a virtual host on Apache server then.


    Just checked availability and (no surprise) morphosfiles.com/org/net etc is all available. Shall I go ahead and register one and then forward you the details? Or would you rather I gift you the money for it via paypal?
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  • »23.04.09 - 10:30
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  • Just looking around
    nexus
    Posts: 14 from 2009/4/24
    The reason is:

    To get a differnt few on the things you like!

    From my first impression, MophOS works different from AmigaOS4.1, even though both try to keep amiga-like :-) I don't want to say, the one is better or worse then the other rather that both give me different possiblities and that's very good :-)

    MorphOS's Ambient may have some much more improved functionality but it's (default) "look" is not as amiga-like as AmigaOS4.1's Workbench is (in my opinion at least). What i really miss is to move windows out of the screen or screen draggin itself. On the other hand, you can iconify all windows.

    Both Ambient and Workbench has strong and weak features but I believe both will help me enjoing the amiga experience :-) .. and that on different ways!

    I never understood why people "hate" the one and only "love" the other or even worse, try to fight the non-liked OS. Our community should work together and lern from each other. I guess, i have a to naiv/romantic few on the amiga community but that's the reason why I'm still here :-)

    So, I really recommend all PegasosII owners to get AmigaOS4.1. It cannot harm you or MorphOS but it can help improve you having fun with your Pegasos and also it can help MorphOS developers to find new ideas!

    If MorphOS were available for Sam440ep, I'd also recommend to AOS4.1-users to buy MorphOS.

    Open your mind :-)

    nexus
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  • »28.04.09 - 12:25
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    Golem
    Posts: 766 from 2003/2/28
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    What i really miss is to move windows out of the screen


    Hold control pressed while dragging and check prefs -> icontrol if you want to change the default behaviour.

    Quote:

    So, I really recommend all PegasosII owners to get AmigaOS4.1.


    I might have taken a look if it wasn't for this buy before you try thing... unfortunately I see no obvious benefit, so I'll probably let the money go towards MorphOS instead.
  • »28.04.09 - 12:54
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Ruud
    Posts: 335 from 2009/2/2
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    @Golem

    I can understand your attitude. Although it's probably not that difficult to imagine what AOS4.1 is like as it's like OS3.9 only quite a bit better :-)
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  • »28.04.09 - 19:39
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Ruud
    Posts: 335 from 2009/2/2
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    nexus wrote:
    MorphOS's Ambient may have some much more improved functionality but it's (default) "look" is not as amiga-like as AmigaOS4.1's Workbench is (in my opinion at least). What i really miss is to move windows out of the screen or screen draggin itself. On the other hand, you can iconify all windows.



    I use the ImAZ skin for Ambient with Ken's Icons which I think gives quite a nice Amiga look. Available from www.five-star.com if you're interested. It would be nice to have screen dragging but it's not so important with modern screen resolutions. As has already been mentioned dragging off screen is available in Ambient.
    The universal iconify is a very nice feature.

    Quote:


    I never understood why people "hate" the one and only "love" the other or even worse, try to fight the non-liked OS. Our community should work together and lern from each other. I guess, i have a to naiv/romantic few on the amiga community but that's the reason why I'm still here :-)



    I don't understand it either. It seems there always has to be at least two "sides".
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  • »28.04.09 - 19:47
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12164 from 2003/5/22
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    > Sonic works since some years on bootx which is supposed to boot
    > MACOSx nativly on pegasos. Dont know what is the state of the dev.

    Actual (and final) state of affairs mentioned there:

    http://obligement.free.fr/articles_traduction/itwfedin_en.php
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    kamelito
    Posts: 103 from 2011/9/21
    Audio evolution is also on Morphos according to the author site
    http://www.audio-evolution.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3&Itemid=7

    Kamel
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12164 from 2003/5/22
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    > Audio evolution is also on Morphos according to the author site

    ...as well as according to MorphZone:

    https://morph.zone/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1792
    https://morph.zone/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1836

    ;-)
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1282 from 2010/1/6
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    @Nexus: For screendragging you can use dragon ( think its located in Aminet - I'm not sure.....). It gives screen dragging on CGFX based systems and works well on MOS 2.x!
    Take also a look at scube ( http://morphos-files.net/find.php?find=scube ) - I think this will give you a smile in your face......
    Peg2, 3xPowerMac G5, 2xPowerbookG4, 2x MacMiniG4, Efika (again), A3000T and life is never boring.....
  • »25.10.11 - 19:23
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12164 from 2003/5/22
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    > dragon ( think its located in Aminet - I'm not sure.....).

    It's not on Aminet but on its website: http://amigazeux.net/dragon/
  • »25.10.11 - 20:20
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