Any reason to keep OSX?
  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    ernsteiswuerfel
    Posts: 553 from 2015/6/18
    From: Funeralopolis
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    analogkid schrieb:
    The latest LibreOffice version for OSX PPC, 4.0 still is better than anything comparable on MorphOS.

    The latest LibreOffice version for Void Linux PPC, 7.1 is better than anything comparable on OSX PPC. ;-)
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12132 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > The latest LibreOffice version for Void Linux PPC, 7.1
    > is better than anything comparable on OSX PPC. ;-)

    Where's that "Any reason to keep Linux/PPC" thread again? ;-)
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    polluks
    Posts: 800 from 2007/10/23
    From: Gelsenkirchen,...
    If you need real POSIX, not just ixemul.

    [ Editiert durch polluks 08.08.2024 - 13:46 ]
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  • vox
  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    vox
    Posts: 524 from 2003/11/25
    From: Belgrade
    Quote:

    retrolinuz wrote:
    The Mac Mini G4 I bought came with OSX installed. As far as I can see, there is not any good use of it, but I'd like to ask anyway:

    Thanks.


    Software, even its is significantly slower in responsiveness then MorphOS. However, in my experience modern PPC Linux is slower. So its good trade off.

    Until 2004 it was "bread and butter" of yappies and even easy productivity.

    I recommend getting last MacOS X Tiger as which software can be installed is dependent on
    MacOS X version.

    Read this great guide in Mac forums
    https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/the-leopard-thread.2120703/

    Even some retro gaming - e.g. Civ3 and Civ4 exist


    Quote:

    retrolinuz wrote:
    Do you dual boot with OSX? If you do, what's the reason?



    First of all, follow this guide https://dreamolers.binaryriot.org/dualboot.pdf
    to get multiboot, its not out of box. Unless going the PDF explained ways, MorphOS install
    will wipe out MacOS X.

    Existence of better productivity software then even in Linux abeit limited in versions, as it was software wise abandoned in 2009 (e.g. MS Office 2008, iLife 09, iWork 09 ...) as well as mentioned
    Ten Four fox browser (FF backport fork) even Wayfarer is catching up and being actively developed.

    I can recommend Macintosh Garden website https://macintoshgarden.org and PPC section of MacRumors forum
    https://forums.macrumors.com/forums/powerpc-macs.145/



    [ Edited by vox 01.05.2021 - 10:47 ]
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12132 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > Until 2004 it was "bread and butter" […]

    More like until 2006.

    > I recommend getting last MacOS X Tiger as which software
    > can be installed is dependent on MacOS X version.

    For latest software compatibility, I recommend last (official) PPC Mac OS, which is Leopard.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    MoerBoer
    Posts: 226 from 2019/10/15
    Having a triple boot setup on my machine with MorphOS, Fienix Linux and OSX 10.5.8, I can confidently state that nothing touches Wayfarer in terms of speed and usability.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    MoerBoer
    Posts: 226 from 2019/10/15
    Having a triple boot setup on my machine with MorphOS, Fienix Linux and OSX 10.5.8, I can confidently state that nothing touches Wayfarer in terms of speed and usability.
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  • man
  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 124 from 2019/11/11
    what about sorbet mac os?
    mac os x only for bluetooh too for keyboard bluettooh
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    MoerBoer
    Posts: 226 from 2019/10/15
    Sorbet is still 10.5.8 with some tweaks, doesn’t speed up any browsers at all for me. And yes, I did try it, but the “App Store” never worked for me.

    Give it a try and try and do YouTube and see for yourself
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    MoerBoer
    Posts: 226 from 2019/10/15
    p.s. If you pair the Bluetooth keyboard on OSX and then boot into MorphOS, it will be linked.

    It’s done on OpenFirmware as far as I remember and it will remember the keyboard without having to boot into OSX each time.



    [ Edited by MoerBoer 10.08.2024 - 20:04 ]
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12132 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > Sorbet is still 10.5.8 with some tweaks

    To be more verbose, Sorbet Leopard combines elements of:

    - Mac OS X 10.5.8 official release
    - Mac OS X 10.6 PowerPC beta release
    - Mac OS X 10.6.8 PowerPC binaries extracted from Universal binaries

    https://apple.fandom.com/wiki/Sorbet_Leopard
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  • Caterpillar
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    Trekman
    Posts: 35 from 2020/11/10
    From: Germany
    Quote:

    Any reason to keep OSX?


    short : no ... except you want necessarily use a specific OSX software ... ;-)

    [ Editiert durch Trekman 15.08.2024 - 20:53 ]
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Posts: 1510 from 2012/11/10
    From: Manchester, UK/GB
    It would probably be a plus-point if there was a way to add a feature like the "RabbitHole" of AmiKit X so that we could also have a Linux installation or some way to have a Mac OSX, or even Windows, installation and could open programs from those OS's while still running MorphOS. Though IIRC AmiKit X opens a minimal Linux setup and then runs AmiKit X. Whereas running MorphOS first precludes Linux or Mac OSX already being open as MorphOS is the OS that is actively running, but if there was a way to emulate those systems at MorphOS start-up, or later on, as required, and then use a keyboard shortcut to switch to one of those systems to trigger a specific useful program then we would surely see a benefit . . . if that was even possible? 8-)

    There would then be no need to port Open (aka Libre) Office, or other such programs, as there are already ports of those programs available for those operating systems. 8-D
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
    Yokemate of Keyboards
    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12132 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > IIRC AmiKit X opens a minimal Linux setup and then runs AmiKit X

    Not quite. AmiKit ('X' from 2017-2019 just means v10, 'XE' from 2019-2022 means v11, current since 2023 is v12) requires Windows, Linux or macOS pre-installed. It simply installs on top of those. The Rabbit Hole feature launches native programs of the host OS, so it's Linux programs only when installed on Linux.
    Generally, the notion that something starts something else and only then runs itself makes hardly sense.

    > running MorphOS first precludes Linux or Mac OSX already
    > being open as MorphOS is the OS that is actively running,
    > but if there was a way to emulate those systems [...]

    A more realistic idea compared to somehow running Linux or Mac OS X from within native MorphOS is the other way round, like AmiKit and numerous other solutions do using UAE, i.e. running QEMU + MorphOS on top of pre-installed Windows, Linux or macOS on a modern x64 or ARM system. This has been possible for years already. What's yet to do is implement the Rabbit Hole feature (to not require actively switching from the QEMU context) and make it possible to register MorphOS running on QEMU for the longer-than-30-minutes MorphOS experience.
  • »16.08.24 - 10:24
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