We have broken our silence on the THTF Project. We wrote a blog about it today.

The Race is On!

As just commented, the EFIKA is and will continue to be a reference platform. There will be follow on chips to the 5121e, some with graphic cores and some without, but the base development platform for the e300 core is and will be the 5200B based EFIKA. You cannot imagine how much we are looking forward to providing more details as the situation develops.

Please update your Project Blogs on PowerDeveloper, and...

Thank you!

Sincerely,
R&B :)

How much of Genesi (maybe Gerald and Thomas, AKA bplan GmbH) is in this cool, REAL, MASS PRODUCED product?
Will Genesi be able to finaly grab some serious money (bucks!), so many stagnated projects can be sprung back into action? Remember the good days, when the mere fact of giving away development tools (Pegasos computers) raised a whole community (first MorphOS, next Linux).

Not immediately obvious: The developers of these gadgets are MTC, a subsidiary of THTF Tsinghua Tongfang.
Remember, there are actually six products, all of them based in the same platform:

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There's quite a bit to read about this subject, so start googling. There's a good article in LinuxDevices.com, for example.

The operating system is LimeOS, based in Debian Linux:

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Could some prototypes be delivered to MorphOS developers? Then we could show them how an operating system should behave!

We are working on that...

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MOS is always an option. AFAIK THTF is pretty aware of it.

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How much of Genesi is in this product? Does it run SmartFirmware/Aura?

@bbrv

That's a very good piece of news. I look forward to receiving more !!!

Please, do keep us posted :D

Products look very good. Looking forward to getting more details and information on them.

Hopefully MorphOS is working on LimePC sooner rather than later.

If MorphOS would run on these, that would be really great. We desperately need hardware that's available for the wide public.
Hope that they will be marketed not only in China but in the rest of the world too.

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surely it will, why else they took it to the CES anyway?

Goody Goody, more GEEK gadgets. Nice

Hurry up Morph OS . . .

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Scaling from a 42" TV down to this! Really small!

http://www.i4u.com/article13909.html

http://www.mtcera.com/os/Lime_OS/

It's going to run Linux as LimeOS...

These LimePC gadgets looks cool! Now Genesi knows what they need to do to get them used. By releasing MorphOS 2.0 tougether with MorphOS Team.

Now its time for MorphOS 2.0 to come out! Now its the time to work tougether. Now its the time to show that a community is so important for something to survive. Now I would gladly pay 100,- euro for MorphOS just to see it for these devices etc.

Once its out. I will be very happy. Thanks to MorphOS Team for the effort and I hope to see the os beeing released soon. I wish you good luck!

Regards,
Michal

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And most certainly MorphOS down the road IMHO, at least if the MorphOS head developers finds it worthwhile to overcome "the 5121e challanges". IMHO this is a perfect match for MorphOS, I think it's obvious to most people.

Best of luck to Genesi.

Dammy
TeamAROS

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In the past it was made really clear, that they support only
existing and documented hardware ...

I like the pictures, too and would love to see an affordable
device like the shown to run MorphOS but its still a long
road to see the products available.

Right now there is nothing to run MorphOS other than
peg.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you the person who has been constantly complaining about Efika not having enough memory? I seriously doubt that this will have any more than that.

But luckily that won't be needed (just like on Efika) as this isn't aimed at desktop market (just like efika)

Not sure about MorphDelf but I for one have said the Efika1 has too little memory. Yes, the Efika was primarily intended for MorphOS. Yet, MorphOS is unavailable for it. Users have had to use Linux in the meantime and 128MB does not cut it. Linux itself takes around 90-100MB and is not a lightweight OS ( with Gnome or KDE ).

MorphOS may run well with 128MB of memory but Linux certainly won't. Linux needs minimum of 256MB to run good. I believe the LimePC will likely have 256MB onboard RAM ( or 128 or 512MB ). Just have to wait for more details.

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I disagree. The ThinPC is aimed at the "sub" entry level ( lower end - for average computer user; non-power user ) Desktop market. The focus is on affordability ( low cost ), compact size & low power usage. On the x86 side, the Mini-ITX & Nano-ITX systems have been going after the same type of market.

I don't think there is any market left for cheap "desktops".

I work in a computer store and I can tell you that laptops
are cheaper than desktops. When you add the monitor
you get two cheap entry-level laptops for one normal
desktop.

I see what normal people buy, every day. They never
buy desktops. They buy laptops.

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Tell it to Walmart
Maybe that is where everyone is buying their cheap desktops?
http://www.mini-itx.com/2007/11/11/199-c7-powered-pc-at-wal-mart

I agree, that In North America, many people are going for laptops. Students are using them at Universities & Colleges, Corporations are lending them out to employees to take home, consumers are buying them for portability, etc. Now that laptops have become affordable.

Now, the LimePC ThinPC is targeted for the desktop market. Mainly intended to be sold in China & Asia but will be sold worldwide also. Demand could be different in that part of the world. As most North Americans either 1) have a desktop already or 2) prefer to go with a laptop. Doesn't mean this is the same for the rest of the world.

Mini-ITX was made for affordable and compact desktop systems. And now, Dell & Intel are using this form factor to enter the sub entry computer market ( low cost, less than $350 ).
http://www.mini-itx.com/2007/05/23/dell-targets-emerging-markets-with-ec280-mini-itx-pc

http://www.mini-itx.com/2007/05/16/intel-to-offer-mini-itx-desktop-board

Yes the Intel motherboard is using a SiS chipset! Who would have thought this day would come?

EDIT: The Dell EC280 consumes 23 watts. The Power Supply is 65 watts. Celeron @ 1.2Ghz, 256/512MB RAM, 40/80GB, CD ROM/DVD ROM, USB2, Case: 270mm x 225mm.

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[ Edited by Velcro_SP 06.07.2011 - 19:58 ]

LimePC will be available in China mid 2008 and late 2008 ( Oct/Nov ) for the rest of the world.

Genesi & THTF have a licensing agreement. Not sure the extent of their partnership or how Genesi is helping out. More information to be revealed in the coming months.

http://bbrv.blogspot.com/2008/01/read-all-about-it.html

I don't believe MorphOS 2.0 will work with LimePC. But this could change with 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, etc. I expect more answers to be available around July/August 2008 on MorphOS & LimePC.

What I'm wondering is if there will be an Efika2. It isn't clear to me if Genesi is still working on getting the Efika2 out because the LimePC ThinPC uses the same 5121 processor ( would be similar to Efika2 ).

The Efika2 will be a develpment platform for the 5121, just like the
Efika is for the 5200B.

And about MOS on these devices - who knows, but better concentrate and
be happy with the soon coming release for the Pegasos 1&2 and the
Efika1.

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