Two questions on MorphOS:
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    CroCrew11
    Posts: 8 from 2006/8/23
    Is there a version that can be installed on a Mac? If so what Macs can use MorphOS? What is the cheapest way to get a MorphOS running on a computer?

    I really would like to try out this OS but I don?t know what to expect in cost to get a descent MorphOS system running.


    Thanks in advance for any reply.
  • »23.08.06 - 17:38
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    hooligan
    Posts: 1948 from 2003/2/23
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    Mac is sadly a no-no. One of the cheapest ways is to check out the Fleamarket right here at MorphZone.

    Good luck
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  • »23.08.06 - 17:58
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    CISC
    Posts: 619 from 2005/8/27
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    Is there a version that can be installed on a Mac?


    Sorry, atm MorphOS can't run on Macs, I can't tell you when/if it ever will either...

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    What is the cheapest way to get a MorphOS running on a computer?


    You currently have 3 hardware options; PowerUP, Peg1 and Peg2 .. the cheapest way would be whichever you can find for the least amount of money.


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  • »23.08.06 - 18:05
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    amiades
    Posts: 231 from 2005/6/2
    From: Asturies, Spain
    As far as I know, in the current situation, there is NO Mac version of MorphOS.

    The only two versions of MorphOS I currently know, are the official MorphOS, designed for Pegasos machines, and the PowerUP-MorphOS, designed for classic amigas.

    The cheaper way into MorphOS, depends on what you already have. If you have a classic amiga computer, you can try PUP version, if you have the neccesary hardware. If you come from scratch, the cheapest way, is locating a second hand pegasos 1 (G3@600) computer... it should be around 180? (<-- this should be an Euro character :P) or 200$.

    There is another option, I think, that is a free trial over internet, but I don't know much about this... some other people would tell you better.

    Welcome to this strange world... I asure you, it will be interesting :P.

    [ Edited by amiades on 2006/8/23 19:09 ]

    [ Edited by amiades on 2006/8/23 19:10 ]
  • »23.08.06 - 18:08
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    SoundSquare
    Posts: 1213 from 2004/12/1
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    Quote:

    The only two versions of MorphOS I currently know, are the official MorphOS, designed for Pegasos machines, and the PowerUP-MorphOS, designed for classic amigas.


    both are official :)

    Quote:

    The cheaper way into MorphOS, depends on what you already have. If you have a classic amiga computer, you can try PUP version, if you have the neccesary hardware. If you come from scratch, the cheapest way, is locating a second hand pegasos 1 (G3@600) computer... it should be around 180? (<-- this should be an Euro character :P) or 200$.


    IMHO the powerUP option is only good if you already own an Amiga with a PowerUp PPC accelerator card. Purchasing such a card would be much more expensive than buying a much more powerful Pegasos1 motherboard. Still the best option in my opinion.
    And by the way he talked about Macs so i supposed he owns a ...mac ? ;-)

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    There is another option, I think, that is a free trial over internet, but I don't know much about this... some other people would tell you better.


    you could try an ODW (pegasos2 based machine) through the internet.... running linux.
  • »23.08.06 - 18:25
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    CroCrew11
    Posts: 8 from 2006/8/23
    Nope I don't own a Mac. They are just easy and cheep to find.
  • »23.08.06 - 18:42
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    CroCrew11
    Posts: 8 from 2006/8/23
    I have no Amiga equipment. I am coming at this with only a low budget.
  • »23.08.06 - 18:49
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    Stingray454
    Posts: 18 from 2006/8/23
    I have to ask as another newcomer.. (first post btw, hi :) )..

    What is the reason MOS can't run on mac hardware? Is there no hardware specifications available, too big an effort, no coder willing to start a port, legal reasons..?
  • »23.08.06 - 18:52
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    hooligan
    Posts: 1948 from 2003/2/23
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    I'd say its mainly because of the lack of specs.
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  • »23.08.06 - 18:53
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    amiades
    Posts: 231 from 2005/6/2
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    With the adecuate port, I'm sure MorphOS could run on every machine, but it was designed for pegasos, and by the moment, is the only supported platform.

    If one doesn't own an amiga, you should focus on a peg1... they are cheap, powerfull enough (for morphos), and very very silent... Make yourself sure you a re buying a Pegasos April2, and not an Pre-april.
  • »23.08.06 - 19:04
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    magnetic
    Posts: 2129 from 2003/3/1
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    Well
    If you can do it get a Peg2. You will love it. NOt only does it run Mos faster/better but its not buggy and you can run latest Linux kernels as well as Latest Mac OSX "Tiger" on it. 3 computers for the price of 1.

    8-)

    magnetic
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  • »23.08.06 - 19:17
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  • Just looking around
    CroCrew11
    Posts: 8 from 2006/8/23
    Why What is up with the Pre-Pegasos April2??


    Quote:


    amiades wrote:
    With the adecuate port, I'm sure MorphOS could run on every machine, but it was designed for pegasos, and by the moment, is the only supported platform.

    If one doesn't own an amiga, you should focus on a peg1... they are cheap, powerfull enough (for morphos), and very very silent... Make yourself sure you a re buying a Pegasos April2, and not an Pre-april.
  • »23.08.06 - 19:18
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  • Just looking around
    CroCrew11
    Posts: 8 from 2006/8/23
    What systems are you all running?
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    SoundSquare
    Posts: 1213 from 2004/12/1
    From: Paris, France
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    Why What is up with the Pre-Pegasos April2??


    The april was a hardware fix made for the articia chipset on pegasos motherboards that was known to be buggy. These Pegasos1 cards got fixed twice, first version is Pegasos april1 and second is Pegasos april2. The Pegasos pre-april and april1 are machines you should avoid. Pegasos april2 works perfectly for morphOS. To physically see the difference you can check the Pegasos Book which is a collection of articles, tutorials, made by pegasos users.


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    What systems are you all running?


    on my Pegasos 2 i'm running MorphOS 1.4.5, Gentoo Linux, Ubuntu Dapper, Suse Linux 10 and MacOS 10.4.7 (through MOL, Mac on Linux).
    The Pegasos will soon be able to run other OSes like Polaris (Open Solaris for PPC) and others.


    [ Edited by SoundSquare on 2006/8/23 21:18 ]
  • »23.08.06 - 20:15
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    CISC
    Posts: 619 from 2005/8/27
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    What is the reason MOS can't run on mac hardware? Is there no hardware specifications available, too big an effort, no coder willing to start a port, legal reasons..?


    No other reason than there not being any real incentive to do it. Enough specs for a port is easily obtainable, the effort surely not unsurmountable and legal reasons are nil...


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  • »23.08.06 - 21:09
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    Bladerunner
    Posts: 418 from 2004/2/19
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    Well, I might be naive on that topic, but wouldn't the chance to attract some additional users
    be kind of incentive? Ok ok, I see you allready thinking we are just a bunch of whining bastards anyway,
    please no more of them ;) (<<<Please imagine this as a big fat smiley :) ) but probably it would also
    attract some interested Developers as well.... Now, I am realistic enough to know that this would't make
    a world domination of MorphOS *g* However I still think this might be an option.
    And yeah I know that another Argument is the non-availability of new Macs, however one "big seller" for
    Zeta (and no, please no arguments about how the failed now in the long term) was that they gave somewhat older
    Hardware a nice speed boost, I guess the same aplies for MOS on Mac Hardware.
    Note that I actually wouldn't have wasted many thought about a possible MOS Port on Macs, but if the
    only obstacle really is "just" missing incentive, then I guess there should be something done to solve that ;)
    (And hey, running MorphOS on Laptops, which would be also possible then, sounds quite tempting for me ;) )
  • »23.08.06 - 21:33
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    CroCrew11
    Posts: 8 from 2006/8/23
    That is sad!

    Quote:


    CISC wrote:
    Quote:

    What is the reason MOS can't run on mac hardware? Is there no hardware specifications available, too big an effort, no coder willing to start a port, legal reasons..?


    No other reason than there not being any real incentive to do it. Enough specs for a port is easily obtainable, the effort surely not unsurmountable and legal reasons are nil...


    - CISC
  • »24.08.06 - 02:24
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    hooligan
    Posts: 1948 from 2003/2/23
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    Quote:


    (And hey, running MorphOS on Laptops, which would be also possible then, sounds quite tempting for me ;) )




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  • »24.08.06 - 04:42
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    amiades
    Posts: 231 from 2005/6/2
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    I'm currently running MorphOS 1.4.5 in my pegasos. It is a Pegasos 1 april 2. The fix works correctly, and morphos feels fast as lightning (http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=15209) <- Read this, its a good article ;).

    I have never used linux in my peg, and had once MacOS 9.2 installed (my G3/600 is a little slow for MacOS X). The truth is that, MorphOS is a very nice OS. I can't use it proffesionally, as I need MS Windows for that (.net for MorphOS is still a little far :D), but is very able for personal use. I recommend you give it a try.
  • »24.08.06 - 15:57
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    CroCrew11
    Posts: 8 from 2006/8/23
    does MorphOS now include a TCP/IP stack and browser?
  • »24.08.06 - 16:29
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    hooligan
    Posts: 1948 from 2003/2/23
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    Sort of. You can download MOSnet and AWeb both for free. On MOS-cd there is a demoversion of Miami to help you download these.
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  • »24.08.06 - 18:47
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    CISC
    Posts: 619 from 2005/8/27
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    On MOS-cd there is a demoversion of Miami to help you download these.


    The same magic mushroom cd that has jfif.library on it? :P


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  • »24.08.06 - 22:05
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    magnetic
    Posts: 2129 from 2003/3/1
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    Crocrew

    THere is now a TCP/ip stack called MOSnet that works nicely (as good as Miami) You can use mos version of Aweb for free, there is also voyager mos, ibrowse, and soon Sputnik with CSS, JS, and more!

    My specs are in my sig.

    Also, I wouldnt say Peg1 april 2 runs MOS "perfectly" It runs it 90% though ;) (articia causes problems with audio playback for one thing, as well as using tv cards)

    magnetic


    @CISC
    So if there was a bounty for say $3k would you guys port it?
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  • »24.08.06 - 23:00
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    CISC
    Posts: 619 from 2005/8/27
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    So if there was a bounty for say $3k would you guys port it?


    Probably not.


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  • »24.08.06 - 23:16
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    Order of the Butterfly
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    a little OT :
    ehehehehehe, CISC : with this and other posts u write, you're my myth
    (very seriously)



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  • »24.08.06 - 23:59
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