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    Genesi
    Posts: 239 from 2005/1/7
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    We decided to do this because we hope we will find a few OEM/ODMs interested...

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    Perhaps, this will spark a broader future and opportunity for MorphOS.

    R&B :-)
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    Zylesea
    Posts: 2057 from 2003/6/4
    Good luck for that kind of business model. Are you planing to do the same with the Efika design?
    I am still quite convinced that the Efika & MOS are a kind of dream team. Leightweight devices powered by MOS - that could become a booster!
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    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2720 from 2003/2/24
    Quote:


    Genesi wrote:
    We decided to do this because we hope we will find a few OEM/ODMs interested...

    Open Source Hardware

    Perhaps, this will spark a broader future and opportunity for MorphOS.

    R&B :-)


    Interesting. Let me speculate a little here; I guess you will focus your own production on new products in a very short future (Epia, Blade, and perhaps even the dual 970MP?), and instead of putting the Pegasos2 in the trash you give it to the public, in order to allow others to help building up a general momentum for a non-Apple PPC/Power platform to the best of their ability?

    You loosly mentioned GPL in another blog. Is it really to become *that* free?

    Since your first blog on this subject, people have remarked on your *requirement* of licensing the Pegasos HAL/OF, and that this disqualify the whole deal from being "open". Now in this blog, things are worded a little different; "We do offer for a nominal per unit fee our Pegasos HAL/OF". This suggests a more liberal attitude on this, that your firmware is *optional* and people might decide to use another firmware or make their own if they want?
    MorphOS is Amiga done right! :-)
    MorphOS NG will be AROS done right! :-)
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    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2720 from 2003/2/24
    Quote:


    Zylesea wrote:
    I am still quite convinced that the Efika & MOS are a kind of dream team.


    I agree! :-)
    MorphOS is Amiga done right! :-)
    MorphOS NG will be AROS done right! :-)
  • »18.11.05 - 14:07
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    Genesi
    Posts: 239 from 2005/1/7
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    Yes, yes, and yes...

    1) Design license-free
    2) HAL/OF optional.

    Part of our decision revolves around the lack of interest from the bigger CPU manufacturers in a general purpose processor for the compute market. Look at where Freescale and IBM are headed...

    Freescale is moving toward the stronger embedded markets (network and wireless support in NCSG) after the Apple decision. Think about it...

    1. Transistor scaling and leakage in the process technology arena is an inescapable fact as frequencies increase.

    2. Supporting a desktop and portable market requires development from both the process technology node and design node. Supporting both markets is expensive. Freescale gave up on the desktop some time ago and without Apple they are moving out of the portable space too - at least in the general purpose processor category at the higher frequencies.

    What is a smaller company to do?

    Looking at IBM, they have two interests,

    1. They are the largest server vendor in the world.

    2. They want to commoditize the client side of the equation as much as possible, because they want zillions of client devices with the same ISA to be talking to their servers.

    This is why the EFIKA makes absolutely perfect sense. The EFIKA uses the MPC5200 which is an SoC. The COG on the EFIKA is less than $100 and absolutely a wonderful platform for MorphOS.

    It took some time, but we are getting there.

    The server developments we have for Freescale and IBM fit into that whole strategy.

    They strategy with the ODW is to extend the potential of the desktop/portable general processor based platform for as long as we can, so making the barrier to entry non-existent makes good sense. And, we promote the HAL/OF at the same time.

    Hope that explains it...:-)

    R&B 8-)
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    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2720 from 2003/2/24
    Another thing - will Santa be able to bring something new from Genesi in time for Christmas this year? 8-)
    MorphOS is Amiga done right! :-)
    MorphOS NG will be AROS done right! :-)
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    SoundSquare
    Posts: 1213 from 2004/12/1
    From: Paris, France
    Quote:

    Another thing - will Santa be able to bring something new from Genesi in time for Christmas this year?


    smart try :-)
  • »18.11.05 - 15:27
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    Genesi
    Posts: 239 from 2005/1/7
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    Hey!



    Where is the excitement around here...:-)

    Dave, you need this one!

    R&B :-)

    P.S. All this does not mean we are leaving the desktop market! Just be patient!

    [ Edited by Genesi on 2005/11/20 8:46 ]
  • »19.11.05 - 21:45
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    Hawk
    Posts: 204 from 2003/12/29
    From: Tokyo - Japan
    mmm... xmas present?
    what about MorphOS on PSP? ;P (jk)
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    Raf_MegaByte
    Posts: 430 from 2004/10/10
    From: Nella grande r...
    Freeing Pegasos Design Layouts it is a brave and courageous move to do...

    IMHO also the only one...

    (due to desktop PPC market situation and current interest in the desktop market by big PPC manufacturers names)

    Well, all I can say now is:

    Bill Buck? Raquel Velasco? BRAVI!

    Now time will see if you are good enough to launch new "fashion style" in the world of Information Technology.

    You give a great opportunity for all users.

    Starting from today gropus of users could join together and divide expenses by issuing orders to any cheap manufacturer worldwide and hire "on demand" production of little quantities of motherboards.

    It could be the next revolution in the world of IT:

    - "on demand" manufacturing by using free blueprints -

    Ciao!

    Raffaele

    [ Edited by Raf_MegaByte on 2005/11/20 23:17 ]
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  • »20.11.05 - 14:03
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    serge
    Posts: 725 from 2003/2/20
    Quote:


    Genesi wrote:
    Hey!



    Where is the excitement around here...:-)

    Dave, you need this one!

    R&B :-)

    P.S. All this does not mean we are leaving the desktop market! Just be patient!

    [ Edited by Genesi on 2005/11/20 8:46 ]


    Does Efika help hardware developers to build something like you spoken some years ago about ECLIPSIS?

    Eclipsis is my dream. I want a MOS device like this always on my pocket !

    [ Edited by serge on 2005/11/21 0:46 ]

    [ Edited by serge on 2005/11/21 0:47 ]
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    warface
    Posts: 653 from 2003/2/24
    From: Hungary
    Sell me a MorphOS powered laptop or PDA anytime :-)
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    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2720 from 2003/2/24
    Quote:


    serge wrote:
    Does Efika help hardware developers to build something like you spoken some years ago about ECLIPSIS?


    Perhaps if it will have on-board graphics. Hope it will!
    MorphOS is Amiga done right! :-)
    MorphOS NG will be AROS done right! :-)
  • »21.11.05 - 08:45
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Acill
    Posts: 1926 from 2003/10/19
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    Having something portable with MorphOS on it would be very cool. I love taking my system out and showing it off, but its hard having to ug it all to the location. If I had a way to get say a laptop or a PDA sized device with VGA or DVI out, mmmmm.... That would be awesome!
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  • »21.11.05 - 15:31
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    SoundSquare
    Posts: 1213 from 2004/12/1
    From: Paris, France
    yeah where is that g o d d a m PEGMINI ? ;-) :-P

    [ Edited by SoundSquare on 2005/11/23 8:06 ]
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    judas
    Posts: 175 from 2005/1/14
    From: core of universe
    Hi,
    I tried to register at power.org, but I never got a reply.
    As far as I understand, you'll have to get an account at power.org to get the specs.
    Anyone tried the same ?
    bye


    [ Edited by judas on 2005/11/23 15:12 ]
  • »23.11.05 - 06:11
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