Sounds to me like a lot of people were looking for a free handout and when they were asked to show the results they had nothing to give. Give up the CVS logs so we can get this over with please. Its a simple request and its how things are done. Now the behind the scenes stuff can stay private. That is the right of the coders ans Genesi. We as users dont have the right to know the inner working of the company. We are not stock holders you know!