Is there a version that can be installed on a Mac? If so what Macs can use MorphOS? What is the cheapest way to get a MorphOS running on a computer?

I really would like to try out this OS but I don?t know what to expect in cost to get a descent MorphOS system running.


Thanks in advance for any reply.

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I haven't noticed that problems :P. Just because I don't use a TV card, and because peggy is not usually my main sound source...

About the issues with sound, is it really articia? I had for example, some troubles with some earphones, but I think due to the little power the board chipset develops... using self amplified speakers resolved this problem, as well as using a SbLive as I have right now...

Anyway, peg1 is a very nice machine ;) and I don't have money for a peg2 :P let me have my illusion :P.

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I was helping some bloke via irc last year who bought a brand new Pegasos, and at one point he found Miami demo, even helped the fellow with installing. Tell me it wasnt a dream.

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The sound per se on Peg1 is not bad, some even say the *sound quality* would be better (whatever the cause might be, the codec is the same, I guess it was something about better conductances on Peg1 or so, dunno and not important because it's only very marginal at best).
The sound issues which are present on Peg 1 are due to Articias poor performance. During heavy load on the agp bus, that pci bus the sound is sitting on does not always get the full performance. Result: the sound starts stuttering.

But to be honest I only get stuttering when moving Voager's windows highspeed around (I rarely do that), thus no big issue.

Peg1 is still a fine maschine, the april1 version I own is still a bit too crippled, too many hard locks due to network traffic. Besid that even the peg1 April1 is quite a nice maschine (that nice that I never felt the need to upgrade since I have it).

@CISC and hooligan

i'm a bit confused ATM! i'm not able to understand who are the "good guys" and whom the "bad one"!.... i don't see smiles in your replies hooligan!

CISC is saying (whot...saying is a big word) that there are around "not authorized" copies of MOS 1.4.5? (yes i know.... probably not my jobs but...)

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What else would it be?
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Weird... At least I got quite enough volume with headphones...

Are you 100% sure that you used the headphone connector and not f.ex. line out?

And one thing about the sound problem... It might sound worse than it is (pun intended)

It was much worse on older morphos version, but nowadays you have to scroll quite big window to make it happen. So it won't have any effect if you f.ex. are just playing music in ANR or watching a video with mplayer. Only when you move window.

However, I've heard that it also happens on some Pegasos 1's when using 3D acceleration on certain gfx cards.

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This are big Technics Headphones... I don't know, perhaps is due to something else, but is the impression I had...

@Framiga

No need for smileys as its purely a f*ck off from Cisc to me. I know there has been a Miami-demo on a Pegasos as I explained (later today I found out its maybe not on MOS-cd but maybe on preinstalled ODW's), of course I couldn't know that, I assumed it was on cd. I havent examned it so thoroughly. Assumption is the mother of all fu*k ups, I know.

Guess its better just to sit back and not even try to help.. or throw in the towel like Targhan did.

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Headphones impedance

The two important electrical specifications for a pair of headphones are the impedance of the phone transducer itself and its on-the-ear sensitivity.

So-called low impedance headphones may vary from 75 ohms up to about 150 ohms. Phones in this impedance range may be directly plugged into the headphone jack routinely found on recording and playback equipment. Higher impedances, such as 600 ohms, are more useful in studio installations where many units may be wired in parallel for studio monitoring applications.

Headphone sensitivity is usually stated as the in-the-ear sound pressure level produced by one milliwatt (mW) of audio input. Typical sensitivity ratings of AKG headphones run from 88 dB per mW to 105 dB per mW. You can see that very little power is needed to drive a stereo headphone pair to very high listening levels.

Doing a little bit of math will show that a signal of .775 Vrms will produce one mW in a 600 ohm load. That same signal will produce 8 mW in a 75 ohm load, a difference of about 9 dB. So it is clear that 600 ohm phones and the lower impedance models should not be intermixed in the same application. The 600-ohm models are more rugged than low impedance models in that the higher resistance coils are less susceptible to burn out than low impedance models.
To produce 200 mW in a 600-ohm load a signal of 11 V is needed. This shows that the advantage of high impedance headphones is that they can be used with almost any amplifier output without any risk of being damaged by overload, and you can connect up to 10 or more pairs to the same output. However, they may be not loud enough with some portable recording devices.
Low impedance headphones will sound louder with devices with low output voltages such as portable MD recorders etc., you cannot use more than one pair of headphones at the same output simultaneously.

@hooligan

no, no i was only unsure if you were joking or what!...

I' don't want to go in your "internal" issues. As i said are none of my jobs.

And about the "Guess its better just to sit back and not even try to help...."
ehhhh! don't care hooligan.... at least its what i'm doing currently

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Uhmmm, ohhhkay? Thanks? I think? ;)

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Ooooohhh, did I really manage to offend you? Hehehe, guess you're really just a big softie on the inside... ;)

I love you man! Gimme a hug and I'll buy you a beer if you promise not to take your wiener out in public for the next few months. ;)

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Relax, I'm just rattling hooligan's chain for being the big dirty pirate he is, arrrr! ;)

(Was there enough smilies this time? Hmmm, better add another last one for good measure. ;) )


- CISC

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Yeah, "someone" had the bright idea to preinstall all kinds of unauthorized stuff on ODWs, needless to say we were abit miffed when we found out...


- CISC

@Cisc

You have understood something wrong, its impossible to make me offended.

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Pffft, I don't believe you you big lovable lug you. ;)


- CISC

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how much would you want?
6000$? 8000$? 10000$?...

Running MOS on a laptop would be great...

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I don't want anything, but then again I have no interest in running MorphOS on Macs (I don't have Macs, don't need Macs, and don't want Macs (unless ofcos I happened to get one for free, but still...)).

I can't speak for any of the other team members though, maybe someone is interested in doing it given the right incentive (however you might be starting off on the wrong tangent thinking that money is the catalyst (or maybe not, dunno))...


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@CISC

the bounty could include hardware (mac laptops for example) given away for free when it starts (I guess that at least 5-6 machines would be required in order to make it easier for MOS-Team). As most of you have real jobs and sometimes have to travel far away it could be a good way to keep your favourite OS near

BTW I'm curious about the status of ARexxPPC Bounty, how is it going?

If Sonic finished a Firewire stack would you include it in the MOS-CD (at least as contribution)?

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That's why we bring our Pegs with us... ;)

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No progress at all during the last couple of months due to heavy RL activities...

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No, anything touched by Sonic is banned from being included in MorphOS. :P


- CISC