Hi, First of all this is not intended to be a flame bait so please dont make it one...

Im trying to consider whether to buy a Pegasos I from someone (G3 600mhz w/ 256mb RAM and Radeon 9200) Or wait for new OS4 hardware, The computer will mainly be used for running FXPaint, ImageFX and Personal Paint, And also General computer use (IRC,Instant Messaging, MP3 etc) Also i would be interested in doing some 3D work in blender.

Also what problems does the G3 Pegasos I have? (If any)

Would the G3 Pegasos be up to this work?

Or should I wait for OS4 Hardware?

Also, How hard is Morphos to use? I have used AmigaOS in the past but not for a while properly (only on WinUAE)

Thanks for any help!

Ive been thinking about this for months, just wanted some help from some other people

You can always sell Pegasos when OS4 hardware becomes available. I dont expect new OS4 hardware arrive to shops before 2007.

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Audio stutters when 2D/3D hardware acceleration is used on Radeon cards. It doesnt happen on every configuration (i.e. my Peg1 with Radeon 7000 was ok) and not in every application.

Blender probably would be ok.

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They are quite the same. Same commands, similar directory structure, same programs...

The peg1/april2 should be able to do what you want, maybe with the
exception of 3d (Blender). Someone who knows better about this could
answer, perhaps.

I used a peg1/april2 for similar things (minus 3d) for a few years and
it's ok. It has some weird performance bottlenecks but it works, and
it doesn't sound like you need that much performance anyway. If you
want to play movies, it may not do such a great job, but you didn't
mention that.

If you like it, you can of course get a peg2 and sell the peg1+memory
later on, and just move all your other devices to the new machine. So
peg1/april2 is a decent "entry peg".

MZ and #morphos should be able to help you with any problems.

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First of all, three different kinds of Pegasos I exists. It has various levels of Articia patches called the "April" chips. You probably only want to get a Peg1 with "April2" patches, however MOS 1.4.5 should work w/o problems on all Peg1s. Otherwise Peg1 suffers from all the problems like all Articia-based boards (DMA quirks with IDE/ethernet controllers, etc). Most of these problems were worked around by software (with a performance loss), on both A1 systems and on Peg1.

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Probably yes. However you might need to select 3D hardware carefully, only R100 series (and 3dfx cards) have 3D acceleration with MorphOS on Pegasos 1.

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That depends if you want OS4, or you just want to have a fast and useful system with Amiga look & feel. In the later case, the answer is definitely no. Be warned though that running Linux is quite tricky on any Articia system. If you don't want Linux, it works OK most of the time. If you want Linux, you probably want to get a Pegasos II, or you want to wait for some other hardware of your choice.

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MorphOS is very similar to AmigaOS. Actually recent Ambient (that is MorphOS' desktop) knows a _LOT_ more, and gadzillion times easier to use than Workbench (as released in OS4upd4). Shell's syntax is 98% the same, there are only minor differences (MorphOS has more commands or more arguments usually). If you know and like MUI, you will feel like home on MorphOS. MUI in OS4 just plain sucks (lot more buggy, knows a lot less, has a lot less eyecandies) compared to MOS one. MorphOS has an excellent backward compatibility with 68k Amiga apps, they run seamlessly integrated into the system on the top of the fastest 68k JIT emulation available today. So if you know Amiga, but don't want the labels only the functionality with excellent performance, MorphOS is the way to go for you.

However, be warned, that MorphOS doesn't have a screendrag functionality built in...

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If I were you I'd go for the line waiting the OS4 hardware.. just to see what will happen in the end.
I'm sure the next date for release will be given in next few weeks.. again.

for MorphOS a Peg1 is quite good, I don't see the difference in MorphOS between my old Peg1 and my current Peg2 G3. If you are interested in 3D apps. you should get a Radeon 7500 (the best supported 3D-GFX-card on Peg1).
If you want to wait for OS4 hardware, you could do this, but I'm not sure how long you are willing to wait. You could wait till 2007 or 2008 and pay lots of money for HW which is high underrated even for Amiga purposes, or you could get a Pegasos (1 or 2, doesn't matter) now and use an operating system, which feels like Amiga, runs like Amiga, the only difference is that its name is not Amiga...

IMHO, for MorphOS a G3 is sufficient enough.

Get a Pegasos1 and have fun NOW. It's cheap and fast.

OS4? When it appears you can decide what you want to do, but it's better to have fun now instead of waiting forever. The Peg1 won't cost you more than 200€ so it's a good investment...

Ok thanks everyone, I think ive made my mind up, im going to buy the Pegasos I, as soon as i get my latest bank statement through...

Thanks for all the help! The person selling me the peg is inluding an Radeon 9200, ive been told that the 7500 is the best card for the pegasos I so im probably going to buy one of those too (Unless Bigfoot decides to let me use his driver...)

Anyway thanks.

Maybe someone would like to offer him a Pegasos even cheaper?

A 7500 would be the best choice, as is the fastest (I think, at least) card with 3D capabilities...

We actually have a Radeon 7500 in stock works great with Peg1. Its the best 7k series you can get - it has 64mb DDR Ram and passive cooler. Let me know if are interested. $39.95 US shipped to europe..

magnetic

ps Welcome to the Community.

Also remember that just like with almost every other Radeon model, there's "Normal" and "SE" (Sucky / Slow Edition) for 7xxx series cards aswell...

@magnetic

nahhh I saw some Radeon7500 with 128MB of ram so there are better models

I'm using a 32MB one (not sure about it being the SE model, but it's quite faster than my Voodoo3500) and it works great so Magnetic's 64MB model will be great

Here's some tests I've made with my Pegasos1:
http://jpv.wmhost.com/P96Speed_test.txt
I don't know how good test p96speed is on Peg, because it's 68k soft etc, but I guess it gives some hint about differences between cards. It's only 2D speed.. should make some 3D tests some day.

And about the original question. Peg1 is fine for most things.. gfx apps, mp3, internet etc. I get little distortion in sound when using 3D acceleration. It's less with SB live than with internal audio. Blender works too, but haven't used it much... Peg1 is also enough for most of the movies.. usual xvids etc you may find. Only some HDTV level material and DVD playing gets too heavy.

Linux and Mac-on-linux etc are more difficult than with Peg2, but MOS works well.

@DBAlex

I would suggest waiting for OS4 hardware since pegasos isnt produced anymore
(last batch recently) and morphos isnt going to support any new hardware,
atleast produced by Genesi.

:)

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That's not necessarily true, although Genesi isn't exactly making it easy for us to support the vapor-hardware they've currently announced.


- CISC

Remember: all your 68k software is JIT compiled under MorphOS, and even the emulation before JIT is invoked is faster than a 68060/50MHz anyway.

So the benchmarks are probably quite valid.