... some new info. Blogs are of course not official press releases, and thus not written in that kind of way (and they shouldn't be looked on as press releases), but from the posts/discussion you can certainly decode some info of what's going on and how they see various things. In the context of that, is there a subtle message about Ambient there as well?

http://bbrv.blogspot.com/

Give me more insight tghm,

I seem to miss the direct connection between, IBM's attempt to take back the market, and Sun/Genesi/freescale...etc... resisting and Ambient. Maybe I am missing something important. I fully understand what bbrv are saying, but I miss the connection with an opensource Ambient. Please enlighten me.

katos1

Quote:

"Clausewitz teaches that most unpredictable part of friction is people: soldiers that fight and commanders who command them. "Each part is composed of individuals, every one of whom retains his potential for friction.""

""But a developer environment without a desktop is like a media company without a search engine - ultimately vulnerable.""

They also talk about SUN realising the importance of open source with the development of their desktop platform, Looking Glass.

[ Edited by dholm on 2005/1/24 15:48 ]

BBRV stated clearly (and publicly) they are not interested in further MOS development.

Quote:

After spending a couple of years and a half a million dollars on building up the MorphOS platform to where it is today, I don't think "they are not interested". What happened was that the prerequisites changed so they *could not possibly* continue the same support to MorphOS development without sacrificing the the Pegasos production, new hardware development, and business development or any other measure that brought the Pegasos and the company to where it is today. Never has the Pegasos been as successful as it is today, and who knows, maybe it really could be as they say in the "ars technica" thread last week; "Our product offering through Freescale is about to grow as are our distribution partners. We are all about to take a quantum leap and it feels good". If they would have continued to shower money over MorphOS they would have done that at the peril of the whole Pegasos effort and everything would die (and MorphOS would not be helped much anyway).

What they stated in public is that they will continue to support the MorphOS and MorphOS application development *the way they can* (ie like they did during the last year *but not* like they did two years+ ago). They have to leave most of it up to the developers themselves at this time. And since the case is that they can't feed them ATM (well that, and the fact that another "David Gerber" thing would again destroy good opportunities on other playfields), they obviously feel they must set the developers free to search for food in another way on their own. Hence the "brainstorming" thread, in which they also said "If one day we find a potential and profitable opportunity for MorphOS we will do our best to pull things back together".

No matter how hard I try, I can not translate the above to "not *interested* in further MorphOS development". They are simply *forced* to change focus for now. Maybe the developers will manage to pull a commercially interesting 1.5 release together, who knows, but until then Genesi still (at least):

- Continue to support MorphOS application development by providing boards and the ODW to Developers that they see will use them best.

- Continue to support MDC and MZ.

- Continue to bundle 1.4.x with the ODW, including a slimmed down SuperBundle.

- Support a high bandwidth download server for special distributions of new MorphOS applications.

The MorphOS would not have come anywhere near where it is today without Genesi, nor would the Pegasos. It's Genesi who made everything happen. I really hope they will be able to embrace MorphOS as they once did, some day in the future. And if that day ever comes, it would only be because their current stance of *not* giving the amounts of money at this point to MorphOS as they once did.

[ Edited by takemehomegrandma on 2005/1/25 13:01 ]

... I guess I missed the reference to "...subtle message about
Ambient..."

I fully understand That without the business backing of BBRV I
wouldn't be posting this message on a Pegasos II, and for that matter,
not even a Peg I.
I also support them where they are correct.
example: New Domination thru cell.

I just don't see the connection between moving forward in Opensource
Developments ect.. and a "now" open source Ambient?


*edit*

@TMHG - I am not posting for aguments sake (I think I'm argued
out on another thread ) I sincerely wish to understand your
point.

[ Edited by katos1 on 2005/1/25 6:38 ]

@ dholm,

Interesting point.

Thanks,