@ BBRV for PEG II UPGRADES
  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    serge
    Posts: 725 from 2003/2/20
    Hi, BBRV,

    Sorry to post new threads about this history, but I want know if my UP-Grade will be Honored one day.
    I'm not asking to have my board today or tomorrow or in the next week. If you tell me I'll have it in the next month, or maybe a bit later, it's not a problem, but I need to know if you will accept this Upgrades from APS !

    Sorry, but I dont understand the silnce or "wait an see", or "maybe" or "something of this kind".
    I juste understand yes we will do it.
    Or No you will not do it.

    If you dont accept Upgrades from APS, Which another solution I have to upgarde today.
    I'm a betatester 1 and bought my card directly from Thierry at Paris.

    Regards
    Serge
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bbrv
    Posts: 750 from 2003/2/14
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    Hi Serge, we have said many times we will.

    We cannot tell you when OR how yet, but when we can we will!

    Added Note:

    There are a TOTAL of EIGHT people who have purchased the upgrade online through Genesi and who have not yet received it. IF YOU PAID AND YOU HAVE A PEGASOS I YOU WILL GET A PEGASOS II ! So far, we have discovered that three of these individuals did not even have a Pegasos I !!!

    We have also had Resellers pay only the cost of the Pegasos II of 200 Euros claiming they needed them for upgrades and then sell them at full price, PLUS in one case the reseller sold the Pegasos I and did not send the funds to Genesi! :-(

    We will upgrade the Pegasos I to the Pegasos II when we have ENOUGH EXTRA production to support the exchange and we are sure that it can be done honestly. For the moment, we have SOLD everything we have made at FULL PRICE and now have orders for all production through JUNE (at full price).

    We will make the upgrade offer good, but everyone needs to be patient. Please remember, it is a good will gesture on our part. There is NO COMPANY in the IT world today that would do such a thing for its user community...;-)

    If you have paid your money to Genesi and you want it back you can have it plus interest! Just send us an email if you feel this is the best way for you.

    R&B :-)
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    serge
    Posts: 725 from 2003/2/20
    OK, This is an answer clear Thanks for this.
    So I can maintain my Upgrade from APS.

    Now, my wish is you will be able to do it before another long months.

    Serge
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Acill
    Posts: 1926 from 2003/10/19
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    Great to the poiny answer Ron! Thanks again for your support to this great community! I hope all of you upgrade people get your boards soon! You have a Pegasos at least now though!! I know of several people that are now going to be waiting for more to me built before then can even get one new!
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    Leo
    Posts: 419 from 2003/8/18
    Quote:


    bbrv wrote:
    We will make the upgrade offer good, but everyone needs to be patient. Please remember, it is a good will gesture on our part. There is NO COMPANY in the IT world today that would do such a thing for its user community...;-)



    I don't know any other company that sells similar products like this: you order, two months later we produce the EXACT number of boards ordered...

    btw, I guess only on Amiga/MorphOS people can order and wait MONTHS before they get shipped. Look: even delays to have a car are SMALLER !!

    Maybe you'll have to change that in order to target other (bigger/real) markets ?

    I know a lot of people interested in getting a Pegasos. But unless that change, they won't get one. Sad.

    Regards,
    Leo.
    Nothing hurts a project more than developers not taking the time to let their community know what is going on.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 278 from 2003/3/4
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    Look: even delays to have a car are SMALLER !!


    First you have to point me to cars that have less delays that ships in the same quantity as the Peg2.

    Secondly, what is acceptable in some countries may not be in some other due to culture differences.

    In France most people order their car and get it weeks / months after (mostly no stocks). In the USA most people can go to a store and pick up a brand new car (and even not pay anything for one year). Car dealers have millions of $ in stock.

    Yes, it would be great to have stocks, but for that demand should be higher. Without stocks we may lost sales but with big stocks all ressellers would still have plenty of non sold Peg1 april 1 boards ...
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    BatteMan
    Posts: 285 from 2003/2/24
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    BBRV : Thanks to be clear finally. Like Serge, I'm happy to have a response, and I can wait.
    Proud user of MorphOS since 2003 !
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bbrv
    Posts: 750 from 2003/2/14
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    Hi Leo, every order Genesi has had was shipped through yesterday. The only people that are waiting are the people who have ordered upgrades *through Genesi* and *have* a Pegasos I for a total of FIVE people. The next production is SOLD OUT already and we have shipped boards to big companies that pay 45 days after receipt.

    Do you have a recommendation for us? Would you like to finance a production for us?! :-)

    R&B
  • »15.04.04 - 13:12
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 278 from 2003/3/4
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    I'm a betatester 1 and bought my card directly from Thierry at Paris.


    I thought that the upgrade offer was only for Peg1 april2 boards ? Have you already upgraded the non april beta1 to the paril2 board ?
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bbrv
    Posts: 750 from 2003/2/14
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    Hi Christophe, yes as far as we know we have already upgraded all Betatesters and completed this offer.

    R&B :-)
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    BatteMan
    Posts: 285 from 2003/2/24
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    5 Upgrades on the Genesi site, but what about the dozen of upgrades which still waiting in APS shop ?

    Thanks to be clear, if possible.
    Proud user of MorphOS since 2003 !
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bbrv
    Posts: 750 from 2003/2/14
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Frostwork
    Posts: 302 from 2003/4/18
    Hi, bbrv!
    I don't want to be inpatient, but I need only a
    "yes" or "no".
    I bought my Peg1 a long time ago at Vesalia/Germany.
    I ordered the Peg1->Peg2 upgrade here, too
    in November last year...
    Will I get it from there?
    If the answer is "no" I'll sell my Peg1 and buy the
    "Peg2"....
    Please answer...

    sincerely yours
    frostwork
  • »15.04.04 - 13:46
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bbrv
    Posts: 750 from 2003/2/14
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    Hi Frostwork, is "here" there (Versalia) or here (PegasosPPC)?

    Added Note: all the upgrades that were purchased from PegasosPPC in October, November and December -- except one person on 12/29 and one on 12/30 -- have ALL been delivered. We could not confirm the original purchase of those individuals until later and in fact one was not a valid purchase.

    R&B
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Frostwork
    Posts: 302 from 2003/4/18
    Hi, again, bbrv!
    Thank you for (quick) answer!
    Sorry I forgot a "T" before "here".
    I wanted to say "there" -> I ordered the upgrade
    at Vesalia, too!
    So do you have "good" or "bad" news for me? :-D
    kind regards!
    frostwork
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    BatteMan
    Posts: 285 from 2003/2/24
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    BBRV : Thanks.

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    Proud user of MorphOS since 2003 !
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bbrv
    Posts: 750 from 2003/2/14
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    serge
    Posts: 725 from 2003/2/20
    Quote:


    cdfr wrote:
    Quote:

    I'm a betatester 1 and bought my card directly from Thierry at Paris.


    I thought that the upgrade offer was only for Peg1 april2 boards ? Have you already upgraded the non april beta1 to the paril2 board ?



    Hi, mr cdfr

    Yes I have an April2 board. It works but not perfectly. There are a lot of limitations with a Pegasos 1(not buged) compared to the Pegasos2.
    1- acces memomy speed Realy faster on PEG II
    2- CPU Twice faster on PEG II
    3-AGP-PCI Difficulty to comunicate (TV cards dont work)on PEG I
    4-256 MO limitation for linux VERY BIG PROBLEM. This problem was fixe fro PEG II
    5-Bios not upgraded, PEG II bios is upgraded and have more features reboot, shutdown etc.
    6- Parallel.device upgraded for PEG II (printing works). Not upgrade for PEGASOS I. Today I cant print with my pegasos I and Morphos. Need to reboot under linux to print. It's a shame.

    This are some raisons to upgrade for PEGASOS II wich is a very good machine.
    And Yes I'm a betatester1 and Dont have my PEGASOS II today. It seems I have to wait for the summer or maybe later. :-(
    I know GENESI is doing the best to all people, and I know it's a lot of work, but only amiga fans can wait for the "GOOD come".

    But I'll wait cause PEG II is realy the best PPC card for amigans.
  • »15.04.04 - 14:25
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Frostwork
    Posts: 302 from 2003/4/18
    Hi, bbrv!
    Once again thank you for (quick) answer!
    And it sounds very good! ;)
    It's not so hard to keep the Peg1 some time
    longer, as it still ROCKS!
    And one day my G4-Peg will rock even harder :-D
    Thank you very much!
    Have a nice evening!
    frostwork
  • »15.04.04 - 14:43
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  • Butterfly
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    ultraspec
    Posts: 94 from 2004/1/29
    I agree with serge on the firmware for Peg1s lacking features... if bplan has made any improvements to these boards, it would be nice if they were released :)

    Peg2 with the latest fixes is great!
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    AyoS
    Posts: 410 from 2003/8/13
    From: West Palm Beac...
    @BBRV,

    Thank you for clarifying this situation so precisely,
    Your continued Communication within this Community( and on this site,) is Much Appreciated.

    ...May demand of the Peg II and its descendants forever meet or exceed supply!!

    Katos1
  • »15.04.04 - 15:40
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