What chance of getting MorphOS2.x for Classic + PPC
  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > http://dreamolers.binaryriot.org/priv/powerup_tease.png
    > http://dreamolers.binaryriot.org/priv/powerup_tease2.png
    > http://dreamolers.binaryriot.org/priv/powerup_tease3.png

    Even more tease:

    http://charlie.amigaspirit.hu/temp/private/morphos_pup3/morphos_pup3_1.jpg
    http://charlie.amigaspirit.hu/temp/private/morphos_pup3/morphos_pup3_2.jpg

    :-)
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    Update:

    > http://charlie.amigaspirit.hu/temp/private/morphos_pup3/morphos_pup3_1.jpg
    > http://charlie.amigaspirit.hu/temp/private/morphos_pup3/morphos_pup3_2.jpg

    http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.a1k.org/forum/showpost.php?p=654515

    MorphOS 3.x on PowerUP next year and for free?
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    discreetfx
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    jacadcaps wrote:
    The download site (http://powerup.morphos-team.net) is back now.


    I donated $100 a long time ago to the PowerUp version just to be supportive of MorphOS.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    CountRaven
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    Yes we want MorphOS back on the classics. It is a special case.

    [ Edited by CountRaven 19.08.2013 - 09:23 ]
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    That would be amazing, amazing news!
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    Update:

    > http://charlie.amigaspirit.hu/temp/private/morphos_pup3/morphos_pup3_1.jpg
    > http://charlie.amigaspirit.hu/temp/private/morphos_pup3/morphos_pup3_2.jpg

    http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.a1k.org/forum/showpost.php?p=654515

    MorphOS 3.x on PowerUP next year and for free?


    I wouldn't call that update. Those pictures where shown in May this year:

    http://www.ppa.pl/forum/morphos/27731/morphos-3-2-na-amidze-klasycznej

    With rzookol's note: official release is not planned.

    Imho I wouldn't hold my breath for that.
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    > I wouldn't call that update. Those pictures where shown in May this year:

    You misread. The picture links are in a quote, citing a posting of mine from May. The update is below the picture links and refers to what was said during Evoke 2013 by Karoly 'Chain-Q' Balogh last weekend.
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    No support AGA for graphics.library, no fun.
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    jacadcaps
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    SKOLMAN_MWS wrote:
    No support AGA for graphics.library, no fun.


    graphics.library? What does that have to do with AGA support?

    To support AGA we'd have to write a CGX monitor driver and that's it mostly. Obviously it'd be painfully slow and many parts of MorphOS wouldn't work due to missing hi-color support in that rusty old chipset.

    Actually - it's possible to use MorphOS on PowerUP without a BVision. You have to install the Virtual monitor and VNCServer and use it remotely :)
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    To support AGA we'd have to write a CGX monitor driver and that's it mostly. Obviously it'd be painfully slow and many parts of MorphOS wouldn't work due to missing hi-color support in that rusty old chipset.


    I thought that the issue is more complicated. Ambient is not needed. Just to be able to run Workbench/DOpusMagellan, MorphOS CLI without startup-sequence on AGA.

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    Actually - it's possible to use MorphOS on PowerUP without a BVision. You have to install the Virtual monitor and VNCServer and use it remotely :)


    Yes, but can run only those apps that refer directly to the AGA without references to graphics.library and monitor (PAL/NTSC) AGA.

    MorphOS 0.4 running on AGA, but there is no emulation 68k with JIT. Trance JIT requires at least MorphOS 1.4. Can do to make it possible to run Trance JIT on MorphOS 0.4 ?
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    jacadcaps wrote:
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    SKOLMAN_MWS wrote:
    No support AGA for graphics.library, no fun.


    graphics.library? What does that have to do with AGA support?

    To support AGA we'd have to write a CGX monitor driver and that's it mostly. Obviously it'd be painfully slow and many parts of MorphOS wouldn't work due to missing hi-color support in that rusty old chipset.

    Actually - it's possible to use MorphOS on PowerUP without a BVision. You have to install the Virtual monitor and VNCServer and use it remotely :)


    These old drivers no good?

    http://aminet.net/package/driver/video/CGX-AGA
    http://eab.abime.net/175372-post24.html
    1.67GHz 15" PowerBook G4, 1GB RAM, 128MB Radeon 9700M Pro, 64GB SSD, MorphOS 3.15

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    SKOLMAN_MWS wrote:
    Yes, but can run only those apps that refer directly to the AGA without references to graphics.library and monitor (PAL/NTSC) AGA.



    If you want to run legacy apps - use UAE. If that's too slow on PPC for you - help fund a bounty to add JIT to E-UAE.

    Supporting AGA's custom access by games and lame applications with all the hacks they do to control the display won't happen on PowerUP for sure.
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    I hope this comes and that it's going to work with my BlizzardPPC with GREX. I buy it as soon as it is released.

    That said I did some funding of that OS4 bounty for JIT on E-UAE. They will release the sources so I suppose it will reach Morphos somehow .

    [ Edited by Oepabakkes 20.08.2013 - 18:42 ]
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    > I buy it as soon as it is released.

    According to the most recent information linked in this thread it's supposed to be free.
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    free ? Not that I mind but why ?
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    Oepabakkes wrote:
    free ? Not that I mind but why ?


    To put expectations at realistic levels (the same level as the price)? You have no moral right to complain or put up demands (including support) for something that hasn't cost you anything? Too many limitations of the HW for them to sell the OS for money with good conscience?

    ;-)
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Simon
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    If it works the same as the old MorphOS did but just the modern 3.2 functions are added ... how bad can it be ?hardware drivers would be more or less the same I suppose ?
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    Oepabakkes wrote:
    If it works the same as the old MorphOS did but just the modern 3.2 functions are added ... how bad can it be ?hardware drivers would be more or less the same I suppose ?


    The old MorphOS was free as well...

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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Simon
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    we have a saying here: "only the sun shines for free".

    from the wiki: "After some bitter disagreements within the MorphOS development team in 2003 and 2004 culminating with accusations by a MorphOS developer that he and others had not been paid"

    So maybe for free for the end-user ... but just because someone else (should have?) paid.
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    (...) many parts of MorphOS wouldn't work due to missing hi-color support in that rusty old chipset.


    source code c2p 15 bit for AGA (HAM8)
    http://aminet.net/package/misc/emu/TurboEVD-src

    MuEVD is based on sources TurboEVD
    http://aminet.net/package/misc/emu/MuEVD

    Once checked MacOS it quite nimbly on the 68040 in 15 bit on AGA.

    So so it's possible to run even hi-color desktop Ambient at AGA ;)
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    SKOLMAN_MWS wrote:
    So so it's possible to run even hi-color desktop Ambient at AGA ;)



    Please, get real.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    I suppose most PPC classics are towerized anyway with zorroslots or pci slots so why bother with AGA in this case ?
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    AS you know (bad Dave that still owns me some money) there have been pics of MorphOS 3.x on PPC Classics but we ll see it when its done, no testing, no-no ... or Kronos will come to you.
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