Your right CISC, its taken care of.

To get things back on topic. If you want a system for playing old games the A1 and the Pegasos II are not the systems for you.

If you want the Amiga look and feel and want to run system friendly applications and games (this is most things released in the later part of the Amiga's life) then the only real answer no matter what anyone else tells you is to get a Pegasos and install MorphOS. You will not find any new A1 hardware at the moment and you cant get OS4 for any other hardware right now. Will this change in the future? Only Hyperion knows that, and they wont talk about it.

[ Edited by Acill on 2006/5/12 9:54 ]

Enough with the A1 situation.. we all know what it is. No need to repeat it till the end of the world.

" If you want the Amiga look and feel and want to run system friendly applications and games (this is most things released in the later part of the Amiga's life) then the only real answer no matter what anyone else tells you is to get a Pegasos and install MorphOS. "

Sounds good to me. I'm wondering one last thing. Any idea when the Pegasos III might come out and for how much? Thanks.

Ed

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No exact date, but if you look in the thread here talking about it Genesi gave some price points.

@Cisc
@Acill

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OK. Thanks for putting me straight. I just hang out on Aw.Net, A.Org and Aros-Exec so I guess you still need to communicate this situation.

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AW.Net is now the most cosmopolitan site in the Amiga community. You can put any point of view there now. The moderators bend over backwards to let people put their POV across. A.Org aren't far behind although they can still be touchy about bbrv!
Why don't you post some Morphos News stories there (Aw.Net) and keep people informed more.

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Well, I am glad to hear this. As a regular AW.Net user I would appreciate it if you ignore the minority and carry on informing us about the state of Morphos. For every bigot there are 10 interested people on Aw.Net.

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Yep with people like R-Team, NutsAboutAmiga, Samface, Atheist and so an, this really sounds like a good Idea ;)
SCNR

IIRC there was even once a newsitem about mos pup release (not that long ago) which got deleted later due to much bashing involved ;)
Otoh, MorphOS News are stil on A.org, so it should be no problem to be informed.

@Bladerunner

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These bigots are in the minority (Hell, Samface and Atheist have recently been banned for flaming MOS people) - most other people are interested. They have AROS updates - why not more on MOS?

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Well - How long ago! Things have been changing since KMOS and the Amiga.Inc Silence but things have totally changed since the new year - anything is up for discussion and if you feel you are being flamed or abused you can report the bigots!

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Well I spend time on A.org AW.Net 50/50 and I really was not aware that Morphos is being actively developed and people are expecting V1.5 in due course.
Also I was dissapointed to see how few AmigaWorld Dudes frequent other sites - they don't get out too much!

Well I didn`t mean that *everyone* would attack Mos Informations on AWN, It may even be just a small minority, but then it`s a very vocal one.
Personally I am to old to play the "hit Atheists nerve" game, I am still angry against myself because I gave R-Team yet another reply.
That said, there are still several people who try to correct things, even if that is considered a "mine is longer then yours" game.

regarding A.org, well you are probably right, the last Mos related newsitem (not meaning Software which was made for MOS) is the updated powerup release in February. The latest SDK Update is not yet mentioned there.
However I still think if one wants to get informed there is still a way ;)
Oh and regarding that removed Newsitem, as I said it wasn`t that long ago, It was about the new powerup release, was released somewhere around last year.

However, I think we are waaaay to off topic now ;)
Perhaps you want to open a new thread and simply *ask* how current development is going ;)

Oh, almost forgot; the best newssource for everything amiga related, including every flavour is propably amiga-news.de
they even have handmade translations into english, polish and french.

[ Edited by Bladerunner on 2006/5/13 2:11 ]

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You already had answers from CISC. CISC (also known as Sigbjørn Skjæret) is one of the MorphOS team core members, one of the kernel guys. His reply is more valuable than mine. Anyway, as you can see, the developers confirm that the OS is still actively developed. Most of them are working in their spare time, but that's quite normal and understandable, unless the OS in question is Windows or MacOSX.
There might be a PR problem in the fact that someone might not know that he is a MOS team member, and he might add a line to his sign. But the informations you had about MorphOS development being halted come from the wrong sources and sometimes from people who like to spread misinformations about MorphOS. But then, just think about it, would you believe me or Rogue about the development status of AOS4? I think you get the point: those saying MOS is dead don't know much about it and usually are not even interested.
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Problem is that there were zillions of thread already stating this, and not just on MorphZone. People like AmiGR, brotheris, Fab tend to say these very things elsewhere (on amigaworld.net, for instance), so those that wants to know have all the possibilities to know... And coming here almost out of the blue, and stating on a thread that MOS development has been alted, can be seen as a try to troll. In this perspective, I thought the users didn't feed the troll. But I can admit I was possibly wrong, and maybe you sincerely didn't know about MorphOS status and its latest developments.
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An active developer (with access to the kernel) already replyied in this thread. Instead of shouting and stating the obvious, those who are spreading misinformations should stop. Simple as that. But some of them won't.

Kind regards,
Andrea

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Personally I never saw a great point in bragging about what I do or what I've done, and adding stuff like that to the sig will just add to the spam .. I'm a firm believer in short and concise sigs. ;)


- CISC

Well I was quite active on aw.net at one time. I think I had over 1000 posts even. My account was killed off though over a year ago. Every time I posted any news item about MOS it would get deleted, not show up or get me flammed. After a lot of this I gave up and they deleted my account.

Even now you can see my new account I made got some flames when I posted a few things. AW.net just isnt a good site to be if your a MOS user. Come here for your news or go to morphos-news.de if it gets updated ever again that it.

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And I just thought you were any old Complex Instruction Set Computer...
Maybe Morphos needs a roll of honour page - a bit like the developers page on AROS.

Bty. I think one of the best project pages I have ever seen is the Haiku status page with links off to all the modules and lead developers.

Sorry these posts have been OT - I have just one more question;
Is there a serious intent for Morphos to be ported to PegIII when the prototypes ship?

Again, please post the (big - after all it's still OS4 centric) Morphos news stories to AW.Net and PM me if they are censored. Thanks

@Thread
Oh! and thanks for your thoughtful replies. Cheers!

[ Edited by Colin_Camper on 2006/5/15 13:30 ]

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Once upon a time you could check out this, but it's very outdated now, and 0wned by the .net guy anyway... :P

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No, we don't make fictional plans for fictional hardware.
If something called Peg3 ever shows up though, and we get hold of a few, we might consider it, just like with any other hardware.


- CISC

@ CISC

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CISC, be aware you'll be nailed down on that sentence when the Efika
becomes available..

Does this mean that if I send CISC a GCN that we'll get MorphOS on that too?

Targhan,

He will only consider it

Edpon

Maybe if you list what apps you are trying to run we can tell you yes/no if they will run on mos...

FYI

1. DO NOT wait for PEgasos 3 or Pegasos mini or Pegasos UltraXsupercoolduper whatever.. get a peg2 and have fun

2. I had a 4000T PPC w/Cybervision os3.9 and it was pretty much replaced by my peg 1, never mind peg 2 :) I only used it for the Vlab motion for video fun..

3. go to my website and read my old ass review of peg 1 and there are some classic amiga compatiblity charts

@ Colin Camper

Please refrain from discussing things you obviously are clueless about.


magnetic

" Maybe if you list what apps you are trying to run we can tell you yes/no if they will run on mos... "

Mainly games, ranging from 1.3 OS to even 4.0 if possible. My goal to to have a modern Amiga, even if Amiga isn't producing anything except PDA games. I have an Amiga 4000, but lack CD-Rom and other basic features needed for computing nowadays. Do I want this computer to replace my Athlon PC, no. Do I want a dedicated computer for Amiga and some other cool things to do, yea. Untill the day comes that I can actually get Amiga or Apple to completely do EVERYTHING a PC can and better, I'll unfortunately have to stick with the Winblows OS. And when I say I want Amiga or Apple to replace what I got now, I mean to have the ability to go to any website, get the parts I WANT and build the system. Right now, only Winblows and Linux does that.

@Colin Camper
Stick the thread I started too btw. You're going off on tangents about other things. Thanks dude.

Ed

For games WinUAE is the best possible (and only) option. There are no Amiga custom chips on Pegasos so you must use UAE for most of Amiga games but then you could use your A4000 or run WinUAE on Wintel box.

Newer Amiga games do run on Pegasos, though...

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[ Edited by Bladerunner on 2006/7/18 0:18 ]

Ok, forget what I wrote, it really doesn't belong here.
Sorry for that.