I was seen Feeling, and it seems interesting and easy for GUIs...

http://www.gofromiel.com/feelin/

I think that could be nice a native version for MorphOS

so, "King of all wacky threads", have you used feelings on your peg?

Even if those GUIs are butt ugly?

Could any programmer comment what Feeling offers as an OO based system
for GUI over and above MUI?

there was a Feelin update yesterday

Feelin050207.lha

and now it's open-source.

What's the benefit of this "Feelin" compared to, say, MUI?

Yes, could be interesting if a programmer comments about this

And yes, the gui is ugly, maybe doing more like the MUI aspect could be nice, and better if reading the MUI prefs...

Wow. ... this is genius...

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From what I've red in Feelin's outstanding online documentation, this new system allows for, among other things, describing complete applications in XML, like this:

<?xml version='1.0' type='feelin/application' ?>

<!-- A simple "Hello World !" -->

<root>
<Application name="app">
<Window name="win" Open="true" Title="Hello !">
<SimpleButton>Hello World !</SimpleButton>
</Window>
</Application>

<notify>
<win attribute="CloseRequest" value="true" target="app" method="Shutdown" />
</notify>
</root>

Imagine not only the ease of development, but also being able to tune up every application you might like, so it fits your taste. And I'm not talking cosmetic issues here, I believe you can add "hooks" for new functions.
I think there's no precedent in our little world for something that can be that productive (perhaps Pandora's DML, but it migrated to other operating systems years ago).
Have in mind that Oliver Laviale (gofromiel@gofromiel.com) has done a huge job, creating a completely new memory management system, for example. And in this latest (last? No!) release, even a new event system, overloading Intuition's one.
In my opinion, this is another rare case of a lonely genius giving for free a potentially unlimited tool for us users and programmers. It's something that deserves attention and applause.

Yes, but people not like it only because is ugly. Very sad that people only hink on superficial stuff only...

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Online documentation is a really nice thing to have.

Feelin looks polished, and I don't mean the widgets or the colours of it

Very interesting, but <scratch my last statement!> does it bang the hardware in anyway? How portable is it? Is it open or closed source, etc?

[ Edited by Targhan on 2005/2/10 3:06 ]

@ jcmarcos

Thanks for the info and the links. This looks very useful indeed!

I think I saw it mentioned somewhere that this is ported to OS4 now ...

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Well thank you very much. I feel optimistic Did anyone tried to port my baby to MorpOS ?

About the ugliness of the look, this is all customizable (event window borders)... even if I don't find it that ugly... mater of taste

Hi Gofromiel, welcome to morphzone.

I didn't find the interface ugly, I think the skins from morphos would fix what a lot of people find "wrong."

Anyway, I didn't get to look at the sources, but did you use GCC to make the system? I expect someone will try to port it (and I really like the idea of XML defined gui's). Oh yeah, how well does it support ARexx?



Targhan

@gofromiel

If you could provide proper makefile it could get easier...

SAS/C was used to create everything. But there is support for GCC and vbcc. The GCC support file has been sent to me by Frederic Kannouf.

Sorry for the makefile. In fact, I don't use them for classes, instead I've created two ARexx scripts : F_Create.rexx and F_Update.rexx. They are used to create the classes. Compiler options are globaly defined in the scripts. What the scipts do basicaly, is compile everything (*.c, *.a), create a .library header object, and link everything together... seams complicated but it's very standardized and works perfectly on classic Amigas... Well, this need to be improved...

Anyway, before compiling classes, you need to have the feelin.library working...

Gofromiel,
Does Feelin have ARexx support?

Bob

The only ARexx support is provided by FC_Application and supports "SHOW", "HIDE" and "QUIT" commands

Since Feelin uses strings as method ids, at least from what I understand, it should be quite easy to add the ability to invoke methods by an AREXX program?

Uhm, I'm feelin' something

Absolutely ! That's why the XMLApplications are so easy to handle for Feelin.

But I have no idea of how to create an ARexx support library...

Uhm, maybe oGALAXYo like send his Pegasos II G4 to the Feelin's author

Stunz, you aren't alone

Any news?

Hi, long time no see The last news is that Feelin is still under development, but because i've spend 2 mounth in London, improvements are little :

* A new class : FC_XMLObject is the link between FC_XMLObject and FC_XMLApplication. Now you can also use XML defined objects, not only whole applications. All preference groups use XML descriptions.

* Now, custom classes can also be used from XML files.

* New image spec : gradients. Finaly, you can use gradients everywhere. It makes the GUI really nice.

* Improved (again) layout rethinking and refreshing. The complex mode if fabulous

* Create a concept out of Preview/Popup/Adjust. All those classes have been rewritten.

* Added popup menu to FC_Cycle.

Now i'm working on FC_FileChooser and FC_Menu... but for this last one, I have a lot of things to think about. I want them in the window toolbar (like Unix), and I want to be able to left some always opened...

Well, that's it

Little? It seems really interesting, thanks for your work