Hey guys,

The 3.3 update went well, no problems as far as I can see, still running great on my g5 mac! Thanks! :)

I do have a question about graphics, though. I have a radeon 9600 and am about to swap in a radeon 9800 xt. One big bonus for me when I initially installed morphos on my mac mini is the goa/warp3d support. Is there any plan to implement this support onto other graphics boards? Particularly some of the ones I have listed here which are supported, but not for w3d?

I know new games aren't written for warp3d but I didn't get morphos necessarily to just plan new games :)

Thanks!

> Is there any plan to implement this support onto other graphics boards?

"No r300 driver will be written for rave3d which can be considered as some legacy component."
https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=9256&forum=49&start=4

:( Ok. Man, really wanted to play wipeout2097!

I started porting wazp3d to morphos a few months ago. The software rasterizer already works, but I'm currently busy with Magellan, so I don't know when will I have time to finish the opengl version.

@BSzili

Sweet!!

BSzili,
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Awesome news! Thank you sir :)

> I started porting wazp3d to morphos a few months ago. The software rasterizer
> already works, but [...] I don't know when will I have time to finish the opengl version.

"i have finally compiled Wazp3D for morphos/opengl. ...Badly it draw nothing. ...Will need some debug"
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=38386&forum=16#721810

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Magellan can wait :) Wazp3D need more :)

I only wrote the library glue, and fixed the things needed to get the software rasterizer to work. Alain is working on the tinygl support, and I have no access to his current code. If he won't get on with it, he'll send it to me, and I'll have a look at it too.

Hello

I just maded some tests & changes on Wazp3D : now it begin to draw = I have obtained 66 fps on old cow3D



More tomorrow ... now I will dinner

Alain

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Very nice.
I am not one of the people that is hung up on Warp3D compatibility, but the longer I am here the more I tend to favor retention of legacy functions.

Hello all

Just to say that I have now Wazp3D ppc using hardware TinyGL on Morphos
It give around 63 to 66 FPS on Cow3D (Cow3D 68k + Key 'b' = bufferize animation) on a Powerbook G4

Badly when started a second time Cow3D + Wazp3D crash ...So I cant release such a buggy Wazp3D version

Crash happen in glAInitializeContextBitMap(bm)
But TinyGL is ok as glGetString(GL_VENDOR)); works
and the bitmap bm from WaRp3D (seems) to be ok as WaZp3D can detect bitmap size & format

So for the moment I have no idea what cause the crash....
So I deeply need a true Morphos guru

Henes ? Fab ?

Alain Thellier

thellier # free ° fr

Good news! Well...more or less. Thanks Thellier for the support.

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First of all enable tinygl debug. You can do it with setenv save TGLDEBUG 1. Then please post a log here (together with stacktrace). Another thing with GLA context which you have to take special care with is not to delete rendering target before deleting GLA context. So if You have a context for a bit then be really careful to do it like this:

allocbitmap
initializecontext (please use tagged glAInitializeContext instead of glAInitializeContextBitMap as that one is deprecated)
...rendering...
glaDestroyContext
freebitmap

Michal 'kiero' Wozniak

Hello

Thanks kiero : this time it works well even if I run Cow3D several times

In fact the error was that I was closing TinyGL.library in the GL code but this library must stay opened until WaZ/Rp3D.library itself close (ie until all Warp3D tasks are closed)
Stupid me...

Now I will clean the code and add some stuffs (not morphos related)
So expect a Wazp3D for Morphos for christmas

BTW many thanks to BSzili that maded the initial Wazp3D port (software only) to Morphos

Alain Thellier - Wazp3D

veru happy news. Thanky very much Alain Thellier.

Yeahh. Very good information!

Yes, thanks a lot Alain !!!

thellier,

Very good stuff! Much respect!

Hello folks

It seems that "perspective texturing" dont works
I am using this command in the opengl (TinyGL) wrapper
glTexCoordPointer(4, GL_FLOAT, 4*4,V);
and it dont seems to works on Morphos
(but the same code worked on WinUAE/PC version)

It is needed as WaZ/Rp3D works in "screen space" so need a W coordinate for perspective correction
Is there a problem in TinyGL concerning this function ???
Is there an other function that use W coordinate (= q coordinate in OpenGL terminlogy) that works ?

Alain Thellier

Wazp3D-Morphos tests:
Cow3D-68k: works 95%
BlitzQuake-68k: works but texturing is false (= lack of perspective correction)
TheVague1-68k: works 100%
TheVague2-68k: works 100%
GlExcess-Os3-68k: works but texturing is false too + coloring problems (so StormMesa2010 68k partially works as GlExcess use it)
WipeOut_2097_Demo: dont start... (problem with my WipeoutLoader usage?)
Cube-68k: dont start
Chromium-68k: dont start
IhaveNoTomatoes-68k: dont start
... the lasts 3 are certainly lacking an SDL or ixemul version








[ Edited by thellier 26.11.2013 - 09:20 ]

Hmmm, not sure if we tested use of 4 component texture coordinates. On what hardware are you running it? r200 or r300 radeon?

blah, double post

[ Edited by kiero 26.11.2013 - 10:11 ]

>r200 or r300 radeon?
Dont know :it is a powebook g4 alu with a big screen
Will check tomorrow

BTW do you know if the WipeOut_2097_Demo from aminet also works on Morphos ? or only the full game version ?

Alain

ok, pbook is r300. no idea about wipeout demo

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Have you tried this?

http://mos.aminet.net/package/game/patch/WipeoutLoader