Adapter for SATA drives to IDE
  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Templario
    Posts: 544 from 2012/4/28
    I found this SATA-IDE apapter card: http://dx.com/p/sata-hdd-to-ide-converter-11163
    because I want put one new SSD SATA hard drive instead the mechanical IDE hard drive, but as the current SSD drives are SATA I need one adapter card SATA to IDE the connector inside the MacMini, but the problem will be the size of this adapter too big for MacMini case, and here is the question, someone has added one SSD drive and used an adapter and which?
  • »25.05.13 - 09:07
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    geit
    Posts: 1053 from 2004/9/23
    An adapter should work as you have no ide wires that cause trouble. (Same as on Efika).

    The real problem is to find an adapter noth higher than a drive, which is possible (saw them on ebay) AND an SSD which is smaller than 2.5", which is the big deal as you cannot see the actuall size without opening the ssd case.

    The easiest way is probably to go for a fast IDE SSD. They are smaller and a little more expensive than SATA drives, but unless you have a dealer who takes back opened hardware, a single full size SSD would break the calculation.

    Geit
  • »25.05.13 - 11:07
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Templario
    Posts: 544 from 2012/4/28
    Thanks for your answer, and where I can to buy anyone?
  • »25.05.13 - 12:14
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    ausPPC
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    Does anyone have experience with these? It could be an easy way to fit an SSD into a 2.5" space.
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  • »25.05.13 - 13:01
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    Kronos
    Posts: 2337 from 2003/2/24
    It seems it needs a special size/kind of SSD and unless that combo is much cheaper I would still advice just buying a large enough IDE SSD (I mean how much storage do you really need to have onboard ?).
  • »25.05.13 - 13:56
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  • Jim
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    Jim
    Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
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    I just bought a cheap 250 GB Western Digital 2,5" hard drive for my Powerbook,
    It fits perfectly in the nounts and will provide me with plenty of space
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  • »25.05.13 - 15:50
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Templario
    Posts: 544 from 2012/4/28
    But the space inside of PowerBook for the drive is the same than MacMini?
  • »25.05.13 - 17:22
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    Kronos
    Posts: 2337 from 2003/2/24
    Both have just enough space for a standard 2.5" HD (SSD) without any adaptors.
  • »25.05.13 - 18:43
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  • Jim
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    Jim
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    Templario,
    Quote:

    But the space inside of PowerBook for the drive is the same than MacMini?


    They are so small I can not picture them using a 3,5 inch drive.

    Yep, just checked, 2.5 inch notebook drive.
    You want faster?
    Get a 7200 rpm drive.
    Th original drives were 5400s.
    "Never attribute to malice what can more readily explained by incompetence"
  • »25.05.13 - 19:02
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12200 from 2003/5/22
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    > Th original drives were 5400s.

    ...and even 4200 rpm in older Mac minis.
  • »25.05.13 - 19:21
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    amigadave
    Posts: 2795 from 2006/3/21
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    This one:

    http://dx.com/p/sata-15-7-pin-female-to-44-pin-male-adapter-54240

    Might be small enough to fit into a MacMini, or PowerBook, as it seems small enough to possibly work.
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  • »25.05.13 - 19:38
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    Kronos
    Posts: 2337 from 2003/2/24
    One the 1st clance it might look o.k., but the problems will start the moment you realize that the SATA and PATA connectors are not hight-aligned meaning you won't be able get the new HD exactly into position.

    It's still true, if you want a spinning drive in a Mini or PB:

    - buy a better/bigger PATA drive
    - remove DVD and place adaptor+drive there

    If you kust want something faster, buy an SSD:
    - PATA and have a working system out of the boy
    - SATA-adaptor, well you have to get cracking (literally)
  • »25.05.13 - 20:08
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  • Jim
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    I don't understand the fascination with SSDs.
    Get a faster drive with the largest cache you can find.
    You'll notice an improvement.
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  • »25.05.13 - 21:48
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    Kronos
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    @Jim

    A SSD will be noticeable faster than even the fastes spinning drive (which aren't available as PATA) in real life.

    All I have to do is see my iBook (120gig SSD) clearly beating the faster PowerBook (320gig WD) when compiling stuff (linking does take aaaaages on the PB).

    That iBook also now does about 30min longer on the battery compared to the stock 40gig provided by Apple.
  • »25.05.13 - 22:28
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  • Jim
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    The battery time argument does win me over.
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  • »26.05.13 - 05:33
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  • Butterfly
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    dekanyz
    Posts: 94 from 2013/2/6
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    I have bought this kind of device and put into PowerBook.

    There is no need to buy additional cables/panels, because the connector is 2.5" sized. ;-)
    The 1.8" is slightly misleading.

    [ Edited by dekanyz 12.06.2013 - 11:25 ]
  • »12.06.13 - 10:21
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  • MorphOS Developer
    geit
    Posts: 1053 from 2004/9/23
    Quote:

    dekanyz wrote:
    I have bought this kind of device and put into PowerBook.

    There is no need to buy additional cables/panels, because the connector is 2.5" sized. ;-)
    The 1.8" is slightly misleading.


    There is one way to even get upto date and cheap hardware into your systems:

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=11&topic_id=9307&post_id=101879&viewmode=flat&sortorder=1&showonepost=1

    Geit

    [ Edited by geit 13.06.2013 - 16:46 ]
  • »13.06.13 - 14:45
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