Wow, what a lot of deluded crap!Quote:
If you were honest you had pointed the fact that the lifecycle of MacMini, Pegasos and Pegasos II, and Efika I are already over...
But I did, I never claimed otherwise, I said that *everything* stops at some point, even the Sam that supposedly is going to be replaced by the Sam Flex now. But that the production ended doesn't render the hardware useless, not at all. A Pegasos or Mac Mini is so much more useful than a Sam. And nobody can complain on Genesi's/bPlan's ability and willingness to help a Pegasos owner in need. It's still there. And Mac Mini is also still supported AFAIK, and when the support stops, you will probably still be able to have it repaired at your local service depot; it's mass produced and standard hardware. Even if you can't have it repaired after several years from now, you could simply buy another one and you would still have paid less money for this powerful hardware than the cost of an Efika class Sam.Quote:
There were plenty of official pages stated that sellings of Efika 1 are over...
Yes it has been said that the Efika will not be produced anymore. However, it's still supported and it's still available to anyone interested. You can still buy it. And if there should be a sudden demand for Efika's there is nothing that prevents Genesi from going over to the plant and make a new batch. But why should they, the Efika is still in stock, and new and better things are coming.Quote:
Again the Sam Flex is yet to come... Sam440 EP is still shipping
"Still shipping"? Well I don't know about that, there seems to be some problems there...LINKQuote:
In the meantime, where are Efika II and Pegasos III based on PPC 8610 that were promised 2 years ago?
"Efika II" is the LimePC. It didn't play out the way they hoped. The 8610 is a new processor and AFAIK they are working on a design using this right now.
MorphOS will support Mac Mini in the mean time. Quote:
And I doubt that ACube neither Genesi have enough money to be competitive on nowadays markets...
The key is partnerships. And MorphOS will support Mac Mini in the mean time. Quote:
If there will be no investor in Amiga or in MorphOS, then I seriously doubt our platforms will survive this 2008/2009 global crisis...
My god, are you blending the financial crisis into the discussion now as well? That won't affect MorphOS in any way, as things are now...Quote:
Remember people do not spit on Samantha...
It doesn't matter if people are spitting on the Sam or not; it's pointless hardware, it can't compete with anything, especially not a Mac Mini G4.Quote:
It is being sold mainly to AmigaOS core users and I saw on on pages of Amigaworld a good number of developers to purchase it...
(almost 6 or 7 developers active in AmigaOS camp)
Wow, 6 or 7 developers! Let's drop everything then, let's drop all efforts on porting MorphOS to Mac Mini, since *surely* not as many as 6 or 7 developers would prefer an Altivec enabled 1.5GHz G4 when you could compile your large projects on an Efika class CPU that makes you take out a second mortage on your house in order to afford it? Wow!
Those buying the Sam now are doing so because it is the only way for them to run OS4, and they want to run OS4 no matter the cost.
Amiga developers interested in MorphOS could easily buy a Pegasos2 today, like "SpotUP" recently did (LINK
), or they could wait for the Mac Mini version that will run circles around everything we have previously seen on the Amiga market.Quote:
Do you spot the fact that until the end of 2006 and middle of 2007 there were released more programs for MorphOS than on AmigaOS while in the last year the releases are more in AmigaOS 4.0 camp?
I'm not going to get into a discussion about facts, sources for that kind of information, or the quality of the software released (merely unix ports, or *real, developed* software), because that has nothing to do with this issue at hand.
Developers prefer powerful machines.
Everyone prefers low price tags.
With MorphOS running on Samantha, these developers could had purchased also MorphOS together with AOS 4.1 and we had had extended the userbase to more Amiga developers...
Nothing is preventing anyone from getting involved with MorphOS. The reason to why these 6 or 7 developers hasn't, is because they aren't interested. They prefer a workstation priced Efika class hardware before a Pegasos 2 at a fraction of the cost. The reason is that it is OS4 they are interested in, not MorphOS, and the Sam is *the only option* for them (they aren't buying it because it's "good bang for the buck" - it has *crappy* bang/buck ratio).Quote:
The more, the merrier...
When resources are limited you have to make priorities. You can't focus on everything, that goes against the very definition of "focus"; you select one, and you put 100% of the efforts there.
Shifting focus from Mac Mini (which is what very many users and developers wants) to the Sam (which nobody wants) would be nothing but insane.Quote:
This fact will had increased notheworthy the number of software available for MorphOS and when MorphOS for MacMini will had been released, then the new users had had found more programs, and more appealing software available for MorphOS, and then more more reasons to purchase it...
The Mac Mini will possibly have that effect. The laptops will possibly have that effect. But nobody would buy Sam for MorphOS.Quote:
MorphOS need any good developer to be competitive... even just a single good programmer/coder who will start portings of new software...
And you will not find good Amiga programmers from former MacMini users, but just people who already knows what was Amiga, and some very very curious people who want to check what MorphOS could offer to them.
Of course not, the good Amiga programmers will buy the Mac Mini second hand and install MorphOS on it.Quote:
And regarding userbase, you said that you doubt that Samantha sold more than 100 or 200 machines...
Well remember that if only if 100 or 150 people had choosen Samantha with MorphOS instead than AOS 4.1 we had had increased userbase of just 100 or 150 people
But nobody will buy the Sam for MorphOS, not when there are so much better alternatives, like a Pegasos 2 or a Mac Mini. OS4 fans buys the Sam, not because it's good bang for the buck, but because it's the only alternative for them.Quote:
No MorphOS available for Samantha? No any new user... Bye bye money, and bye bye ready cash to develop further MorphOS releases (for MacMinis or any other platform)...
Nobody will buy a MorphOS/Sam combo, when you could have a 1.5GHz Altivec enabled G4 at the fraction of the cost.
Mac Mini - Hello new users, hello money.
Sam - Means no Mac Mini, no new users, bye bye money.Quote:
Now the choice of MOSTeam is to sell MorphOS available for MacMinis, and it is sure a choice of selling for el-cheapo USED HARDWARE, no matter for the price...
The Mac Mini is cheap, yes (and and the point is that this is a *good* thing, *not* a bad thing), but it's *not* "el cheapo" as in low quality. Apple makes good hardware! The quality of Mac Mini is certainly better established than the Sam! Quote:
People using MacMinis with MacOS could choose MorphOS only if MorphOS will offer the same things that MacOS offers nowadays or even more features.
The point isn't to try to convert Mac users into MorphOS users, the point is to provide the fastest yet cheapest option for *Amiga* users to get MorphOS running in a way that has *never* been seen in the Amiga world.Quote:
And I strongly doubt that it could offer more...
There simply isn't any readily available hardware that is faster than the 1.5GHz 7447A. This is as fast as it gets. Certainly the Sam can't offer more...
MorphOS is Amiga done right!
MorphOS NG will be AROS done right!