Why is it so hard to find a fully working NEC USB2.0 card???
  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    keropi
    Posts: 131 from 2006/11/11
    From: Ioannina , Greece
    bah, so far I have bought 2 different NEC USB2.0 cards, and both fail.

    the one with a D720102GC chipset and 4 ports is recognised OK in Trident, but the minute I connect a device , the device dies. (I am a fully regged PSD user, and my reg-details appear on the nec-controller settings)

    and the 2nd with the tested (by some members) NEC D720101GJ chipset with 5 ports causes the pegII not to boot at all...

    :-o :-o :-o

    can anyone recommend a specific tested model, preferrably on eBay? or maybe someone sells one here? :-?

    thanks! :-)
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  • »11.07.07 - 12:28
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    MarK
    Posts: 641 from 2004/1/25
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    well, try some via board... i have two of them, and both works perfectly. imo, if the nec card is well recognised, but it breaks after a while, then it's perhaps a settings problem. try to play with it a bit.

    bye, MarK.
  • »11.07.07 - 12:47
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    CISC
    Posts: 619 from 2005/8/27
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    Quote:

    and the 2nd with the tested (by some members) NEC D720101GJ chipset with 5 ports causes the pegII not to boot at all...



    Try setting usb-enable? to false in OFW, this should remedy this problem (which is due to a bug in OFW), but will disable access to any USB devices from OFW!


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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    keropi
    Posts: 131 from 2006/11/11
    From: Ioannina , Greece
    so in OF prompt I should try:

    setenv usb-enable false

    right?
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    keropi
    Posts: 131 from 2006/11/11
    From: Ioannina , Greece
    the above does not work, I get a:
    "error: no such configuration variable"
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    analogkid
    Posts: 673 from 2004/11/3
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    you've forgotten the questionmark. try this one

    setenv usb-enable? false

    [ Edited by analogkid on 2007/7/11 17:00 ]
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    keropi
    Posts: 131 from 2006/11/11
    From: Ioannina , Greece
    sorry, I did include the question mark... there is no such variable... ? :-? :-? :-?

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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    keropi
    Posts: 131 from 2006/11/11
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    peg2_usb-var.jpg

    proof LOL
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  • »11.07.07 - 17:13
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    magnetic
    Posts: 2129 from 2003/3/1
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    Lol

    Proof? You forgot the switch of false?
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  • rms
  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 602 from 2004/11/27
    Hi,

    well I use this one here:
    http://www.rmsvideo.ch/public_rms/morphos/exsys_usb2_card.jpg

    in 6 Pegasos2, and everything works fine here.

    This card has the NEC chip. So perhaps you have some other problem?

    Regards

    Christoph
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    in 6 Pegasos2 , and everything works fine here.



    Are you trying to challenge Virginia Tech? ;)
  • »12.07.07 - 04:20
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    keropi
    Posts: 131 from 2006/11/11
    From: Ioannina , Greece
    @magnetic

    no, this is a printenv to see the variable setting, not a setenv command to adjust it...
    I found out that I have v1.1 OF, so there is no usb-enable? variable :-o

    @rms

    thanks, I have located one in eBay...



    [ Edited by keropi on 2007/7/12 8:07 ]
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Brumiga
    Posts: 249 from 2004/4/3
    From: France
    Hello,

    @keropi, you can update your firmware to version 1.2 from end of 2005. Try to obtain this update from BPlan or Genesi. GGS Data gave it for a while but I do not know if they still maintain this... Otherwise you can ask to some other users to send you this update. I can send it to you if you want, just send me an email, my adress is in my profile.

    Brumiga

    [ Edited by Brumiga on 2007/7/12 15:13 ]
  • »12.07.07 - 14:12
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    CISC
    Posts: 619 from 2005/8/27
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    you can update your firmware to version 1.2 from end of 2005.


    Uhm, so you want him to update his firmware so he can get a feature to disable?


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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    keropi
    Posts: 131 from 2006/11/11
    From: Ioannina , Greece
    I actually tried an ALI based card... As far as I can tell it works fine...!
    I did a little test, I copied the whole Quake3 drawer on a usb2 stick and I run it from there... somewhat long loading time LOL but it actually works ! i tried deleting files, no prob either!
    is there another test to make to ensure it is OK?
    thanks!
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  • »13.07.07 - 06:13
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    Golem
    Posts: 766 from 2003/2/28
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    Quote:

    is there another test to make to ensure it is OK?

    Keep using it?
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Neko
    Posts: 301 from 2003/2/24
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    You shouldn't have to update to disable the feature. Old firmwares don't have it, so they don't init the card.

    If you can see it, definitely try disabling usb in the firmware. It doesn't support any devices in the public firmware, just initializes and then *forgets* to quiesce the card when it gets into Linux or MorphOS.

    I think MorphOS has a workaround for it but there's not much you can do if the USB card tries to access some memory across the PCI bus and the system has moved stuff around in the boot process..

    In my experience, usb-enable? false doesn't do anything at all, I still got major crashes on high USB load with those chips (around ~2.6.9 I think, what kernel were we running in 2005?), which is odd because they quit happening with beta firmwares and the NEC chips are by far *the* best USB controllers on the planet and work everywhere else.

    [ Edited by Neko on 2008/11/20 21:28 ]
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