@ Kronos

The Panda specifications are in various ways above those of the Pegasos 2 specifications.

http://troikang.com/DL/AmyPanda-project.pdf

Also some people are interested in running MorphOS on the Efika miniboard, and MorphOS seems to run well with such minimal specs. The Sam440 is much better specced, so why would nobody want to run MorphOS on this as well?

IMO both boards can be nice options for hobby systems. The prices can come down when the R&D costs have been covered.

@ people not informed and/or with disconnected synapses

The end of the PegasosPPC era was announced by Ralf Schmidt in a mail sent to to the morphos-mailinglist, dated Tuesday, 3 October 2006. Laire replied to Acill, who said the Pegasos market was not yet saturated, and among the other things he wrote:

> Want to get one ? Seriously..these people had almost 4 years to do so.
> Now it's too late, as a few months ago the last(as far as i know) Pegasos
> were built and it will take a while until there will be alternative hardware.

So those who follow with sufficient attention the morphos-mailinglist already knew that the end of the PegasosPPC was very close, and also knew that there will be alternative hardware (the Pegasos 8641D, I presume).

I think there is no need for whining, and no need for looking soon elsewhere for other hardware.

As always it's only a matter of patience (and before the usual criticisms start, yes, I know perfectly that this is easy to say and difficult to apply...)

WOW! Pretty glad that I snagged one then :D

It's a shame no more CPU board will be produced, were the announced
1.4 or 1.7GHz upgrades *ever* available?

As a Frieden once explained: an announcement is not a promise.

Here with frenchy friends, we choose to purchase few Peg2 motherboards at 399$ in order to use (and code) on Pegasos ;)

Arnaud
an old Pegasos user (i am not really a coder personally)

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What a shame, I would have loved to see the most up to date build of MorphOS 1.5 released to the rest of us. I dont think it will ever get released now. The other new boards getting ready to come out, if they ever do are way above a good price for a hobby system like we all use MorphOS and the Pegasos for.

Now I just need to get a new board because I think mine is on its way out. Its been acting up the last month if its left on for a long time.

@MikeB

Panda has no PCI express or AGP while PegasosII had AGP. Panda form-factor is not ATX or microATX. Pegasos II has excellent linux support while I don't know if Panda has been tested as much as pegasos. BTW UD Tech board layout doesn't seem to be designed for desktop use... they could use at least MicroATX with 1 AGP and 3 PCIs, instead of offering odd layouts. It looks as a desperate attempt to sell anything with a ppc chip. And it will probably be *much* more expensive than Peg2 or the future PegIII.

About Sam440 vz Efika. Efika works with both MOS and Linux and has been shown running Wipeout2097, playing DVDs... and it has better features/price ratio than the vapourware Sam440 (Sam440's cpu is simply too weak for real desktop and the additional chips like sata, radeon, usb2 and the fpga only rise price up.

BTW, as we are talking about vapourware boards (well, ud tech "panda" is not vapourware, but it's not produced in high quantities yet so price will probably be too high) we could compare the forthcoming Pegasos III with the "Panda"... MPC8641D is simply an state of the art G4 chip with a memory bus 3 times faster than the fastest g4, PCIexpress controller, 4 Gigabit ethernets...

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And please, no more photos of your runaway pet hamsters or your little squeeze, thank you.

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Maybe because the peg2 is not rohs??

But in first place, no probs, we have allready a peg1/2 or a pup to run mos,(@Acill here) and when there will be a mos 1.5 for any new bplan platform,why in the hell u can assume the support for the "old" platform will be suspended?

Maybe we will see mos 1.5 (or 1.4.5,5) for "the new platform" and for the "old" peg1/2/pup


/maybe off topic ON
@All
It's only an idea , but we can create a bounty for a "discount Peg2 mobo" to deliver for free to a "nice" programmer like Carl Sassenrath for a native version of rebol, or any kind of programmer the community can thrust/interest

What do u think ?

/maybe off topic OFF

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@ raistlin

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Actually, Carl Sassenrath has a Pegasos computer and runs Linux on it. Genesi supplied him with one quite a while ago.

That is correct:

http://www.rebol.net/article/0204.html

One way or another *with Ralph and Frank* we will figure out a way to support MorphOS in the future.

We still believe in MorphOS.

R&B

That is great.

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The pricetag.

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"MorphOS development continues, Pegasos I and II will be supported." (Piru)

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Maybe not, given your signature, at least in case AMiGR is right.

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Since when has "consider" meant "make public announcement of it"? It seems that this is what you're trying to say...

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Yes it was, sorry, "apparently, the MOS-team so far did not officially proclaim the support of any non-Genesi platform yet" was what I was trying to say.

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And while we are at it, since when have classic amigas (with PPC accelerator) become Genesi hardware?

And afaik, Pegasos (1 and 2) were always manufactured by bplan...

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I wholeheartedly apologize again for further inconstistencies, Mr. Jupp3. I hope you agree on the following statement:

"Apparently, the MOS-team so far did not officially proclaim the support of any platform other than bplan-hardware and Amiga Classic PPC (BPPC/CSPPC) yet"

Sad, isn't it.
Genesi announces THREE new computers (Efika, Pegasos 8641D and TetraPower), and none of them is of any use to MorphOS.
288369422_1a8fdc1061.jpgBy the way, I suspect that the 8641D is not really from Genesi, but an evaluation board from freescale. I've tried to find a photo of it, but it seems is doesn't exist. In the other hand, I believe that TetraPower is really bplan hardware, based on IBM's own PPC970, instead of freescale's MPC8641.

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I think thats actually the point....

Wake me up (so I can try to wake the MOS-team ) when those "computers" are either on sale or atleat being build in real numbers.

@ jcmarcos

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Guess what, *it is*! And that is not a secret either, it's clearly written on its development program website:

"Initially centered around Freescale's PCEVALHPCN-8641D reference design ("Argo Navis"), features and functionality can be exposed, software can be written before cost-reduced and consumer-level products hit the market."

"The final Pegasos 8641D consumer design will be designed around this reference product and enhanced by the developer support and early adopter work through the Projects Program."

The meaning of this, and the purpose of the program:

1. Early software/OS development can start on the Freescale board right now (well, in a few weeks that is)
2. Later, when the Genesi 8641D hardware is released, the software is already there and present!

@ Kronos

Bring up your fat wallet!

https://www.pegasosppc.com/store.php?category=21



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http://www.genesippc.com/press.php?date=20061106

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