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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Posts: 140 from 2003/9/16
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    Hi

    I have been suffering a strange behaviour lately on my peg2.

    Usually when I bootup the system it stucks on the OF and if i do a ls /pci/ide/ I dont get any IDE drive listed but an OK prompt.

    It seems that it doesnt recognize any of my IDE drives ( which are in good working condition ) unless I do a set-defaults on thew OF. The tricks survives the resets but each time i do a cold bott I have to re-do the thing.

    Any hints?
  • »24.07.06 - 14:45
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  • Fab
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    Fab
    Posts: 1331 from 2003/6/16
    Since i have my Peg2, i always had to reset once before ide drives are detected. AFAIK this is due to a quite flaky ide detection timing in OF. You didn't encounter this bug before just by luck.

    I was told there was a way to change timings a bit, but i can't remember. However i'm sure someone will and help you. :)
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    judas
    Posts: 175 from 2005/1/14
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    I have the sameprob. After Powerup only one of the two harddisks shows up. No matter how much boot delay I use .. I allways have to reset once.
    ..
    Yep,this is one of those things, where OF can be improved :-)


    [ Edited by judas on 2006/7/24 18:05 ]
  • »24.07.06 - 17:04
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    Acill
    Posts: 1926 from 2003/10/19
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    Strange, I had mine do this a few times in the past, but once I got a new PSU and then a replacement CPU card I havent seen it since. The only things in my current system that are now changed are the PSU and that CPU card. This was over a year ago and I can boot right into my boot menu on my drives with no trouble at all.
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  • »24.07.06 - 17:42
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  • Butterfly
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    AKiLL
    Posts: 92 from 2006/3/6
    From: Naples, Italy
    Here is the same prob. I always have to reset once or more times before showing up both Hard Disks. :-D

    How to solve with timings ???
  • »24.07.06 - 17:50
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
    Yokemate of Keyboards
    magnetic
    Posts: 2129 from 2003/3/1
    From: Los Angeles
    Hey guys

    AFAIK the problem is the type of Hard drive used. Some brands dont get recognized properly and a reset is needed for it.

    magnetic

    ps Also try to re-arrange the ide configuration of the drives - primary/secondary
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  • »24.07.06 - 18:24
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2720 from 2003/2/24
    Below is a cut'n paste from an old post of mine on this issue:

    Quote:

    I have had this problem all along since the beginning with the Pegasos II (G4 only, with the G3 it works just fine, same motherboard, same hardware, just a different CPU card). I have a Seagate HDD and I think they may be a little slow during initializing in coold boot (or the firmware is too fast ;-)). If I reset the computer just seconds after I power it up, then the harddrive is already spinning and is ready to shoot, but I can never cold boot right away from coold start. :-( I think this is not just a Seagate problem, but also certain IBM discs and also some others.

    I have addressed this problem since the very first public version of the firmware (I was a Peg2 owners from the first batch). I have e-mailed b-plan about this and I have made comments in public forums. There has been many firmware upgrades since then, but this far it doesn't seem like anyone has taken this (BIG!) problem seriously enough!

    I had great hopes that this latest firmware update would change these things, but it certainly didn't! :-(

    An open firmware variable like "IDE Delay" or such, where you can set a value in seconds, would probably solve the whole thing! But untill anyone takes this issue serious enough I guess you will have to manually program a delay loop (search the morpzone forums).


    Work-around 1: Simply do a warm-boot by hitting the reset button after the harddrive has finished cold-booting.

    Work-around 2: Try re-arranging the IDE units and/or add some hardware. This *can* delay the boot process enough for your harddrive to get ready before probed for. It's a long-shot and may call for a little experimentation, but AFAIK it has worked for some.

    Work-around 3: Make a delay script in the firmware. Go to this old thread and look at the posts on second page from "mat":
    LINK!

    We are all waiting for a new firmware version. And I'll tell you what, if this *embarrasing* issue is not fixed when it arrives, I will personally take a walk over to b-plan and punch somebody in the stumach! ;-)



    [ Edited by takemehomegrandma on 2006/7/24 21:30 ]
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  • »24.07.06 - 20:28
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