In BBRV's latest blog, they write that they could have a volume partner for the ODW's now, http://www.directron.com/, who will also be building home theater systems (see pictures in the blog itself).

Also, the Freescale Technology Forum is coming up, which according to BBRV will bring another surprise. I wonder what that could be, the release of a new CPU-card perhaps? Or the announcement of the specifications for the next Pegasos hardware (with that Tundra Northbridge)? Something related to what's going on in China, or Japan?

Who knows, but I *do* know that the FTF will take place in Orlando, Florida during June 20–23, which is less than a month away!

What volume are we talking about?
In 2003 we could read "The first commercial production run will be for 5000 units" - maybe now the price for an entry system will come down to $499?


[ Edited by tarbos on 2005/5/29 12:33 ]

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How should I know? Depends on how serious Directron is about this, and how well they manage in the end, I guess.

A rough estimate would be from zero and up! From the photo from the "test building" I see some 12 or so computers on the desk, so obviously that "zero" has already been beaten!

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Well, at least they keep trying! Nothing bad about that, rather the opposite if you ask me!

If you keep trying, maybe you will have a few percent chance of success some day, but if you do *nothing*, you have 100% chance of failure!

We will see ...

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Will it be possible to run MorphOS under these systmes? aka will the MorphOS discs be shipped with the system? If not will it be possible to buy morph separatly?

I suggest to bbrv to start considering HD-Cinema ... the peg power is not enought for those new formats (neither the current PC's though) but ATi starts to build new videocards with HDTV hardware support.

Supporting those new videocards on the peg's we can use our machines in our living room

I wish we had more information about what apps it is going to run.
I have a similar HTPC based on a lowend PC (celeron 1400) + winttvpvr 350 (with mpeg2 encoder /decoder) + mythtv.
I runs so well that it replaced completely the VCR. It could also replace the DVD player (but I already have a network DVD player doing HDTV upscaling).
I think that what is important first is to make sure that the different cards are well supported (winttv PVR 350 for analog cable, winTV nova / nexus for satelite users and for digital terrestrial). HDTV is becoming a must have and as mentioned by liquidbit it requires monster cpu power and there will certainly be some sort of HW support in more cards.

If Genesi makes a quality product that does everything out of the box than they can sell a lot of units with good profit margins. Just remember one thing: videophiles want the best quality (including quality DVDROM, total silence, best video output, several inputs / outputs, lcd display, infrared, good remote).
Installing mythtv for a regular person is quite complicated. Everyone who had a look at my system at home want a similar one but unfortunately they are not capable to do so by themselves.

I wonder why use a PCI slot for the serial ATA PCI card ?

And BTW I am also a directron customer. Genesi have made a good choice.

@ cdfr

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Indeed!

My VCR broke down some month ago, and I will not buy a new one. I was just browsing Internet Stores to find a good recordable DVD with a large HDD instead. They cost a lot, especially if you want a large HDD (which I want). If this thing could bring the functionality of, say, the Panasonic DMR-E500 recordable DVD with large HDD, and the Pinnacle ShowCenter or similar, in one single device (perhaps a bit like the Philips Streamium but with recording as well), then I would be *very* interested! Oh, and why not throw in some Internet applications as well, like browsers, e-mail, ICQ, etc!

Of course, no noise will be *essential* in a product like this!

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There's always the Psylent software shown at one section of Genesi's stand at CES 2003.

>Of course, no noise will be *essential* in a product like this!

IS the passive cooler finally ready?
A 108dB S/N Soundcard is of no use if this advantage is instantly destroyed again by several other noise sources. :)

I agree HDTV capabilities are very important for such a high-priced product, maybe a different PCI tuner card could be applied in this case?

>I wonder why use a PCI slot for the serial ATA PCI card ?

You mean they should have chosen the AGP slot?
Maybe we should ask "why SATA" in the first place - for external storage expansion?

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Indeed: Why SATA?



Doesn't it only add unnecessary cost in a product like this?

This is great news, I just learned of it a few moments ago myself. Since TMHG did such a great job with the forum post, I basically just repeated it in the news and directed comments to this thread.

Anyway, sub-1000 is getting really close to where we need to be!

>Anyway, sub-1000 is getting really close to where we need to be!

Easy, buy a Gentoo-ODW.

Vesalia has a system without case and keyboard/mouse for 638EUR (w/o VAT) which is just a bit over 800USD, so...

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But they doesn't come with MorphOS, or do they? I think not!

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Yeah, personally I am quite fine with computers without cases (I have used setups like that many times, I think it's quite tiresome to fasten all those screws ), and I have a keyboard-mouse-monitor switch so I won't need that either. However, I don't think many people agree with my views here, and VAT is mandatory on most places ...

I said "I wonder why use a PCI slot for the serial ATA PCI card"

I should have said "waste" instead of "use".

BTW why also add a sound card ? Isn't the Peg2 capable of 7.1 ?

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Wow! Directron is a good store. I buy most of my hardware from them.

--Aaron

Need support of this card
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20050526100319.html

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The ODWs did ship with MorphOS before, so I assume they still do unless something has changed.

Anyway, getting Directron on board is a great step toward higher-volume sales, more exposure and hopefully lower prices.

-- gary_c

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I see no reason to not ship MorphOS with all Pegasos boards! After all, 1.4 is ,,owned'' by Genesi, and 1.5 is almost here. That would build a start intrest in MorphOS & get the cash for developers, when the 1.5 will hit the stores.

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I wasn't referring to the ODW in general, but to the Gentoo Deal in specific.

The reason for my question was because of a post from BBRV, I think it was on morphos-news.de. I only recall it vaguely, hence the question.

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Indeed!

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You remember correctly. Since then at least I have never read about MorphOS being bundled with the ODW again, thus I'd rather guess it's not coupled anymore since the morphos.net incident.