video card question
  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Posts: 979 from 2003/6/28
    Please write a better subject.

    I think that yes, but I'm not sure at all. If you want 3D at this moment, get voodoo 3 or Voodoo 4 4500...
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    AyoS
    Posts: 410 from 2003/8/13
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    Couldn't use your link... but I am pretty Sure UltraSpec (where I got
    My PegII) Uses ATI 9200, as the Graphics card of Choice. Check out
    their website... or buy a card/system from them.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    magnetic
    Posts: 2129 from 2003/3/1
    From: Los Angeles
    James
    That card should work with both MOS and linux

    magnetic
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    James
    Posts: 110 from 2004/9/26
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    I fixed the link and subject (sorry - I was tired when I posted that). :-)

    @ magnetic - thanks! The Sapphire Radeon 9200/256 is on sale for $69.99 too. I am placing an order for it right now. :-) All I need now is a case and a new G4 Pegasos II motherboard, and I am ready to dive into this platform. hehehe
  • »15.10.04 - 04:41
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    Posts: 199 from 2004/2/9
    All ATI card works on the pegasos. Some card doens't offer 3d. Woodoo support it.
  • »15.10.04 - 12:03
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    Posts: 154 from 2003/4/22
    When choosing an AGP graphic card first check it's Universal AGP v2.0
    or AGP 3.3V compliant.

    Everything is explained in the Pegasos II maunal. Look there too:
    http://www.ati.com/support/faq/agpchart.html
    MorphOS Rulez !
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    Miky060
    Posts: 694 from 2003/2/24
    From: ITALY
    Uuh!

    RADEON 9700 3.3V, 1.5V, 0.8V

    :-O :-O :-O

    This means that is tecnically possible to installa a Radeon 9500/9700 into the Pegasos!!?? =)
    I REALLY did not know this.

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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    catohagen
    Posts: 297 from 2003/5/20
    Can you please change that avatar, please ?
    that face really irritates me beyond comprehension, if you want to use
    some face, find another face, or another face, or even your own face !?
    I really get in a bad mood everytime i see it.
  • »15.10.04 - 17:28
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    tarbos
    Posts: 221 from 2003/4/20
    @Miky060:

    Why don't you know??
    I put my ATI Radeon 9800SE@PRO All-In-Wonder into my Pegasos (with 150W PSU) and it ran well enough to play with the firmware! :-D

    @catohagen:

    *rotfl*
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    magnetic
    Posts: 2129 from 2003/3/1
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    @catohen

    LOL :-)

    @ Tarbos

    Yeah, sure you can play in OF but thats about it..

    point being sure its electrically compatible but there are no MOS drivers and iirc wont work with lnx either..

    magnetic
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    James
    Posts: 110 from 2004/9/26
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    NicoPPC wrote:
    When choosing an AGP graphic card first check it's Universal AGP v2.0
    or AGP 3.3V compliant.



    I checked the specs - that card is fine, so it should work without any problems.
  • »15.10.04 - 21:32
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Acill
    Posts: 1923 from 2003/10/19
    From: Port Hueneme, Ca.
    James that card will work just fine like I told you. Just make sure it is NOT and 9200SE. They are crap and you will not like it al all. I am using a 9200 in my Pegasos and I also have a 7000. The 9200 has a better picture, but I hear the 7000 will support 3D if they ever decide to release 1.5 to us. I havent tried any other ATI card, but I would say the 9200 will be perfect for you. Not many things are out for 3D for me to put in an old Voodoo card.
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    Darth_X
    Posts: 571 from 2003/2/10
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    I'm pulling for PowerVR support :-D
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    then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth!!! - Sherlock Holmes
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    James
    Posts: 110 from 2004/9/26
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    Acill wrote:
    James that card will work just fine like I told you. Just make sure it is NOT and 9200SE. They are crap and you will not like it al all. I am using a 9200 in my Pegasos and I also have a 7000. The 9200 has a better picture, but I hear the 7000 will support 3D if they ever decide to release 1.5 to us. I havent tried any other ATI card, but I would say the 9200 will be perfect for you. Not many things are out for 3D for me to put in an old Voodoo card.


    Hey Paul!

    Good to hear from you! :-D Hope you are doing well...

    I was going to get the ATI 9200 card, but I am going to get this one from Sapphire because it has 256 MB RAM and is cheaper. :-) Since I really don't have much need for 3D with MorphOS, I am getting this one. When the support is there for better cards, then I will upgrade, but this card should suffice for a while.

    All I have to do is decide from three cases that I am looking at, and then I just need to get a new G4 Pegasos II motherboard, but I don't know when I will be able to do that.

    I am listening to Duran Duran's new CD, Astronaut, right now - AWESOME!
  • »16.10.04 - 03:01
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    As far as I know that *IS* miky060... So there isn't much he can do about changing his own face :)
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    Miky060
    Posts: 694 from 2003/2/24
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    @catohagen
    as HammerD told you the guy in the photo was me some years ago, so i can say: I'm sorry my face irritates you so much, but i will not change it ;-)

    It remembers me of a nice period of my life, and even if I cut completely my hair some time ago, I still love the "SuperSayian" look I had in that period... :-D


    @Magnetic,
    I knew MorphOS has no drivers for 9500/9700, but I'm amazed that also Linux has no drivers for it..

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  • »16.10.04 - 14:06
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Aaron
    Posts: 127 from 2003/6/14
    From: Tucson, AZ
    @Miky060

    From what I have been reading on the Linux sites (I've been reading
    about Linux alot lately), ATI doesn't really care about anyone outside
    of the Windows community.

    --Aaron
    --Aaron Diezman
  • »16.10.04 - 14:28
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    James
    Posts: 110 from 2004/9/26
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    Aaron wrote:
    From what I have been reading on the Linux sites (I've been reading about Linux alot lately), ATI doesn't really care about anyone outside
    of the Windows community.
    --Aaron


    Well... Then Genesi should approach NVidia instead if ATI is not going get with the program in making native drivers for the Pegasos platform (MorphOS and Linux).

    That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it... :-)
  • »16.10.04 - 22:28
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    Kronos
    Posts: 2307 from 2003/2/24
    @James

    Noone from the big companies is gonna write driver for MorphOS, thats something Frank has to do himself (maybe he has help, I don't know).

    NVidia is COMPLETLY close-up on the HW, so you can completly forget writing drivers that support anything more than basic 2D.

    ATI on the other side did at one time annouce a partnership with Genesi which should give Frank access to all he needs to write complete driver. Well except time and motivation offcourse ;-)

    [ Edited by Kronos on 2004/10/16 23:51 ]
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    James
    Posts: 110 from 2004/9/26
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    Kronos wrote:

    None from the big companies is gonna write driver for MorphOS, thats something Frank has to do himself (maybe he has help, I don't know).

    NVidia is COMPLETLY close-up on the HW, so you can completly forget writing drivers that support anything more than basic 2D.

    ATI on the other side did at one time annouce a partnership with Genesi which should give Frank access to all he needs to write complete driver. Well except time and motivation offcourse ;-)



    That will be nice to see, once there are drivers for their full line of products. :-D
  • »16.10.04 - 23:35
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Phantom
    Posts: 381 from 2004/9/7
    I use Radeon Asus 9200SE and I haven't any problems at all.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    ChatDEau
    Posts: 248 from 2003/4/4
    From: MONTREAL, Quebec
    James wrote:
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    Does this card work with the Pegasos II?

    Sapphire Radeon 9200

    Thanks!



    I have a PowerColor Radeon 9200SE 128MB AGP8X and it works correctly.

    The only problem I had is that I had bought a DVI->VGA adaptor, as the VGA connector is "removed" when the card is put in a half-height case (Mine is a Antec Minuet) just to find out the DVI connector only works in the OpenFirmware.

    And don't tell me to put the DVI_ENABLE=YES tooltype in the Radeon driver, it just won't work. I already mentioned this to the MOS Radeon driver coder ... I guess there *could* be a fix in MOS 1.5.

    BTW, this problem only happens with PowerColor (and maybe another one) ATI cards.

    Anyone else with this issue?

    So, in the meantime, I use the VGA flat-cable that came with it.

    Fred
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    antime
    Posts: 10 from 2004/7/30
    The DVI connector does work, but not with a VGA dongle. Before I got my DVI-enabled flat screen I had to have the VGA connector dangling loose in the slot next to the graphics card. It looked extremely professional and reliable. (My card is a Club3D 9200SE)
  • »17.10.04 - 08:36
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    ChatDEau
    Posts: 248 from 2003/4/4
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    @antime

    Why is it working in the OpenFirmWare then?!

    What's so special about this DVI output? I mean, even the dongle is a kind of internal adaptor which (seems to) connect to the DVI outputs pins.

    Anyone with a working DVI->VGA output adaptor?

    Fred
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