PPC Laptop, something for MorphOS?
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    Kronos
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:

    The maths behind this eludes me.


    Dunno, 1st post in this thread was made in 2014, it is now 2023, seems simple enough for me.....
  • »02.07.23 - 14:17
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12086 from 2003/5/22
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    >> The maths behind this eludes me.

    > Dunno, 1st post in this thread was made in 2014,
    > it is now 2023, seems simple enough for me.....

    Ah, you changed the reference. This explains it. My posting you replied to and all figures therein refer solely to the accomplishment(s) of the fundraising campaign(s), which started in June 2017, not about when the respective development work will be accomplished. Even if my estimation for the collection of the additional 16000 EUR of mid to late 2024 will come true, this won't say anything about the completion of the actual work, which might take years longer or even forever.
    Functional prototype within 10 years from project start (2014) is still in reach in my opinion, but a sellable product certainly isn't. It surely doesn't help that SLIMBOOK has EOL'd the selected Eclipse chassis.
  • »02.07.23 - 14:47
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    Update:

    > NXP claims T2080 availability until 2027

    I just found that in April or May (narrowed down by using Wayback Machine), T2080 availability has been prolonged by further 8 years to 2035 as per NXP's Product Longevity. This should be sufficient for this project ;-)
    (The same was done for T4160, T2081, T1042, T1040, T1022 and T1020, btw.*)


    * Edit: Meanwhile, availability for the entire QorIQ T series has been prolonged to 2035.
  • »19.07.23 - 14:30
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    Kronos
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    This should be sufficient for this project


    You're an eternal optimist.....
  • »19.07.23 - 15:28
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    Addendum:

    > Prototypes ready now.

    Prototype board was shown (not running) by ACube at Amiga 38 as "Amiga PowerPC Laptop", see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODnSaem7ow4 (5:09-5:18). The "8 core" claim is false of course, as it's 4-core with 2 threads each, so 8 threads.
    Interesting statement: "Will be compatible with: [...] MorphOS [...]". I'm not sure whether that's to mean that MorphOS will also be compatible with this board ;-)
  • »17.10.23 - 09:24
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    Update:

    > https://www.bglug.it/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/LD2018_MarioLocati_PowerPC_Notebook.pdf
    > (page 9)
    > Specific components mentioned (selection): [...] Marvell 88SE9235 4-port SATA3

    "More recently chip prices seem to be coming back to more reasonable prices, with the exception of the Marvell Sata3 controller. As a consequence, we are evaluating the removal of the Marvell Sata3 controller to both free very-much needed space space and save some costs because at the moment such a chip costs around 90 euros per piece, quite a lot. In fact, nowadays most SSD are available at a very good price with the M.2 form factor, so a Sata3 connection is not that essential anymore. People in a desperate need for a Sata connection could use the two Sata2 controllers inside the T2080 CPU."
    https://www.powerpc-notebook.org/2023/10/fine-tuning-firmware-for-u-boot-and-develop-radeon-driver-for-latest-u-boot-version/

    Meanwhile, the financial state of all campaigns/phases is as follows:

    I_0. 12600 EUR: Electrical schematics [accomplished]
    I_1A. 19000 EUR: PCB [accomplished]
    I_1B. 5000 EUR: Fast SI bus simulations [accomplished]
    I_2. 13500 EUR: Prototypes [accomplished]
    I_3. 14000 EUR: Testing [accomplished]
    I_4. 12500 EUR: Certification [accomplished]
    I_5. 5375 EUR: Prototypes and MXM graphics cards [accomplished]
    II_1. 1000 EUR: JTAG debugger [accomplished]
    II_2. 5000 EUR: U-Boot [17% done]
    II_3. 10000 EUR: Heat pipes [open]
  • »22.10.23 - 23:48
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    DanicaTalos
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    give it News in 2024?
    iBook G4 - 14" -1,42 GHz - 32MB VRAM - 1,5GB RAM - 60GB mSata - MorphOS 3.18
  • »13.02.24 - 18:42
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > give it News in 2024?

    The most recent news update is from the last day of 2023. No substantial progress, though.
  • »13.02.24 - 20:06
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  • man
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    man
    Posts: 116 from 2019/11/11
    the same of that?
    ACube Systems
    Le fabricant italien présentant le prototype d'une carte mère PowerPC pour ordinateur portable. Son nom de code est Tyche [photo].
    Ses caractéristiques : processeur PowerPC T2080 à 1,8 GHz, huit coeurs, AltiVec, puce graphique AMD/ATI MXM, SSD M2, trois ports USB, port Ethernet Gigabit, résolution FullHD 1920x1080, prétendument pour AmigaOS 4, MorphOS et Linux.
    http://obligement.free.fr/articles/actuenbref09102023.php
  • »14.02.24 - 17:07
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > the same of that? [...] huit coeurs, [...] prétendument pour [...] MorphOS

    See comment #254.
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  • vox
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    vox
    Posts: 524 from 2003/11/25
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    Is there any hope Acube laptop will be supported by MorphOS?

    And is it in stalled development, or is it progressing?
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  • »22.02.24 - 14:59
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > is it in stalled development, or is it progressing?

    See comment #257 for my opinion on current development.
  • »22.02.24 - 15:47
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  • vox
  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    vox
    Posts: 524 from 2003/11/25
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    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    II_2. 5000 EUR: U-Boot [17% done]
    II_3. 10000 EUR: Heat pipes [open]


    Seems this U Boot is stuck (plus the pipes, almost like in "Brasil" :D
    Hope it will come closer to reality. MorphOS support, if any, is surely possible only when the board exists :D
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  • »22.02.24 - 20:23
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    >> II_2. 5000 EUR: U-Boot [17% done]
    >> II_3. 10000 EUR: Heat pipes [open]

    > Seems this U Boot is stuck

    This was 4 months ago, the donations for U-Boot are now at 45%. Note that these figures are solely about the fundraising, not about the state of development. An item on this list may be at 100% donation-wise, yet at 0% development-wise.
  • »22.02.24 - 20:53
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    Kronos
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    Goal will be reached in 8.5 months.
  • »22.02.24 - 20:58
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > Goal will be reached in 8.5 months.

    87% in 6.7 years (= 13% per year) means a year from now ;-)
  • »22.02.24 - 21:27
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  • man
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    man
    Posts: 116 from 2019/11/11
    certainly the price of the card will be huge at the end

    if like the x5000 .....
  • »23.02.24 - 08:25
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > certainly the price of the card will be huge at the end

    Yes, and add to this that the "card" (board) will have to be sold as a complete product with chassis, screen etc., which will add to the overall margin.
  • »23.02.24 - 09:44
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  • man
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    man
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    the problem is simple
    when produce in europe it cost a lot but you have a good production
    hope to pay in 5X or more credit
  • »23.02.24 - 11:23
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