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    SteveE617
    Posts: 80 from 2013/1/26
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:

    > ok, so we have to get an iMac G5 to find out then.

    So you don't think "nope" simply means "nope" then?


    Well, I guess that answers that.....


    [ Edited by SteveE617 14.06.2013 - 09:05 ]
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    In recent releases the boot.img checked for the device id and refused proceeding to boot unless the id matched one of the supported ids.
    The only device reported so far that booted MorphOS that was not directly intended/listed was some PowerMac G4 Cube. The 1.42GHz eMac was also running untested, but it was assumed to run anyway.

    And as interesting as I think the iMac G5s are (no big box, relativey powerfull while no insane wattage) I also agree that current hardware support is more than sufficient and the ratio of effort/benefit wouldn't be a particular good one. Resources should put elsewhere - polishing what's there, adding features/applications and finally preparing and doing the big switch.
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    bash64
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    ok, how much money to bribe you?
    :-D
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    I'm just amazed no ones even like tried it once.
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    Yasu
    Posts: 1724 from 2012/3/22
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    Wouldn't an iMac G5 MOS port make a lot of sense? With this, it feels like hardware wise MOS has gone as far as it can. Next step then would be to keep improving the OS itself until the day comes when we have to change platform.
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    Zylesea
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    Yasu,
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    While it's a decision of the team anyway I'd suggest to wait a little and watch the registrations numbers of G5. So far not many have registered which isn't really promising for a possible iMac G5 version.
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    bash64
    Posts: 958 from 2010/10/28
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    ok, not interested even if there is a bounty?
    :-(

    How many G5 regs do you need???
    Would that be considered a bounty fulfillment if we all go out and buy G5s and register?
    Does buying an iMac G5 and registering count (I guess manually register).

    p.s. Make sure you do the iMac G5 that is real easy to take apart and upgrade.


    [ Edited by bash64 13.06.2013 - 21:03 ]
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    Oscar
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    I would have thought the iMac G5 would have been more readily available and perhaps a better choice just because there are probably more of them around. I prefer the PowerMac though. Concerning the few G5 registrations, it may be that some people are just waiting for the early adopters to iron out any issues before taking the leap.
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    Doffo
    Posts: 508 from 2010/10/14
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    Oscar,
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    it may be that some people are just waiting for the early adopters to iron out any issues before taking the leap.


    I would of registered my G5 by now, but as you said, I am waiting for the bugs to be taken care of. But I am ready to register as soon as they are fixed.
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    ausPPC
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    Bear in mind that a bounty helped to bring about G5 support. A willing MorphOS team member was still part of the equation but money speaks louder than words. Having said that, I wonder how big an NVidia bounty would have to be...
    PPC assembly ain't so bad... ;)
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    Yasu
    Posts: 1724 from 2012/3/22
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    For your information then: I am gonna register my Powermac G5 next month. So there is at least one coming :-)

    I simply assume that these bugs will be taken care of. Sooner is better than later, but I'm starting to understand that it's a whole lot better to try to appreciate what you got rather than longing for the next big update ;-)
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    bash64
    Posts: 958 from 2010/10/28
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    ok, so is there no iMac G5 with a an ATI video chip?
    Its all nvdidia?
    :-(
    So it will have to be quite a bounty to get nvidia support written.
    How much do you need?
    I think we would all give to that.
    The code would certainly be helpful even down the road.
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > so is there no iMac G5 with a an ATI video chip? Its all nvdidia?

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=9144&forum=3

    62.5% of iMac G5 models have a Radeon GPU.
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    bash64
    Posts: 958 from 2010/10/28
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    ok, so is the isight the one that is easy to take apart?
    :-D

    You all still haven't said how much money you need to raise to get an ATI based iMac G5 working.
    We need a figure!
    :-D

    [ Edited by bash64 14.06.2013 - 11:12 ]
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    ausPPC
    Posts: 543 from 2007/8/6
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    The way it went last time was that various systems were supplied to the developer who took on the bounty - there were various reasons for this. As things stand, iMac G5 support may be happening anyway. http://www.geit.de/eng_index.html (read the 'Geit@Home #2 2013' entry) Also, no one has said how much they're willing to put up. The way bounties work is someone makes a proposition and, if it's attractive enough, a developer might take some interest.
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    cyfm
    Posts: 537 from 2003/4/11
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    It is unlikely that any kind of bounty will make iMac G5 support happen any sooner.

    Just my 2 cents ...

    Not because it is never going to happen but at the moment it would be a waste of developer resources to spend more time on even more Apple PPC hardware options IMHO.

    Currently, there would only be 2 MorphOS-Team developers who could add the support for iMac G5 IMHO. One is currently fixing the open G5 issues that have shown up with the MorphOS 3.2 release - and I'm not sure if he is keen on adding more to this list by supporting even more models - and the other one sees no point in expanding support to even more Apple PPC hardware options than there are now already ....

    So whatever plan you come up with in this thread regarding iMac G5, it is unlikely to work out ...
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > As things stand, iMac G5 support may be happening anyway.
    > http://www.geit.de/eng_index.html (read the 'Geit@Home #2 2013' entry)

    Read pega-1's comment #11 in this thread, which refers to this entry.
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    As a longtime lurking admirer of Morphos, my first license will be for a model
    with a built-in monitor, so only (unsupported) G5 or G4 imac, or a 1.42 emac,
    or a laptop would be on the list. The G5 imac first choice,
    and laptop, last choice. (trackpad hater)

    I have seen many local G5/G4 towers in various states of life and death,
    and could probably cheaply cobble together a fine working unit, but before doing that,
    I would just fasten a Mini to the
    backside of some 20" lcd, for a home-brew imac.

    I only need something fairly portable, with basic internet, music and video playback,
    and a G5 imac is perfect for me. Congratulations to the Morphos team on the latest release,
    laptop lovers should be well served for years. I hope to have a licensed setup by September.
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    Zylesea,
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    While it's a decision of the team anyway I'd suggest to wait a little and watch the registrations numbers of G5. So far not many have registered which isn't really promising for a possible iMac G5 version.

    I think a reduced price for second and third licenses, would be helpful.
    Especially if your G5 market is already saturated with G4 users, who must
    weigh the actual improvements they will enjoy, in setting up a G5.
    A serious user (as opposed to a confessed lurker)
    might like getting about 20% more off, for each new license,
    111, 89, 69, with all further licenses bottom capped at 49.
    Bounties are great, to let the users chip in as able.
    Cheers
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    bash64
    Posts: 958 from 2010/10/28
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    I'd donate $100...lets count how much people are willing to donate.
    Any other bounty people?
    :-D
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    I'd go $40, if I can launder it through AmigaDave,
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    Senex
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    jurrasic500,
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    I think a reduced price for second and third licenses, would be helpful.


    Wouldn't work due to the OS licence not being per person, but per machine. Thus suggestions like 20% off for each additional registration would create a nice business model for registering and selling cheap bundles of (anyway already used) computers with a licenced version of MorphOS.
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    bash64
    Posts: 958 from 2010/10/28
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    ok, who has got info on what does work on the iMac G5?
    There are pictures. Don't deny it.
    ;-)
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    bash64
    Posts: 958 from 2010/10/28
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    ok, Someone inserted early on in the discussion (on page 1) pictures of the iMac G5 running MorphOS.
    So what gives with all the pessimism about getting an iMac G5 working when you have already got it booting to the desktop?
    Are you intentionally blocking iMac G5 from booting on MOS 3.2?
    It obviously will boot.
    :-(
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    pampers
    Posts: 1061 from 2009/2/26
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    It obviously will boot.
    :-(


    There is a big difference between booting system and fully operating and functional system, don't you think so?
    MorphOS 3.x
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