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No, AFAIK MorphOS detects the CR version, but fully supports the normal SAM460.

>> I guess "fully supported" means it will be a Sam460cr.

> No, AFAIK MorphOS detects the CR version, but fully supports the normal SAM460.

So support for onboard video/audio (SM502) and onboard SATA then. Nice, I certainly didn't expect that.

Update:

>> the last time Frank mentioned it, he was using an X1300 in the SAM

> Confirming screenshot from yesterday: [...]

Another one:

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=9767&forum=3&start=61

"Bus clock: 1018 MHz" (= CPU clock) for the system sounds odd, though.

And MorphOS on the Sam460 seems to support the same L2 cache specs ("available copyback, unified") as MorphOS on other machines.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/AmbientDesktop.png

Edit: Another one:
http://www.amiga-news.de/pics/x5000-morphos/IMG_2221.JPG
http://roschmyr.gmxhome.de/Sam460ex.jpg
(Also here, the bus clock is shown as being the same as the CPU clock)

[ Edited by Andreas_Wolf 12.04.2015 - 13:46 ]

Nice!
Looking forward to 3.8.
I have to buy a Sam.

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Me too!

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You'd be much better off by buying a second hand PPC Mac instead.

so are there any internal benchmarks between MOS and OS4 yet? =)

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There are a bit old benchmarks on Peg II - old in terms of OS versions and gfx cards (Radeon 9250). It shows MorphOS is superior in 95 percent of applications and tests, which will be beneficial for relatively slow (compared to G4) SAM.

http://translate.google.fr/translate?u=http://obligement.free.fr/articles/amigaos41_vs_morphos23.php&sl=fr&tl=en&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8

Since SAM460 MOS pictures shows Radeon X1300 (supported by OS4 as well) it will be interesting also to see future tests on a bit more modern gfx.





[ Edited by vox 03.04.2015 - 18:49 ]

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The MorphOS Team has no SAM440 board, so there won´t be any port.

MorphOS 3.8 will support the SAM460 and the SAM460CR only and there are no plans to support the SAM440 in the near future.

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If any Morphos User donates a SAM440 computer to a Morphos Developer, would this increase possibility of MorphOS ported to SAM440?

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The goal was to get a plattform which is still available in shops, as this was a wish from the users.

The SAM440 is (AFAIK) not available anymore and there is plenty of cheap MorphOS Hardware available already, which has more power and makes more sense.

I can only speak for myself here, but in my oppinion it simply makes no sense to spend any development time here. I can understand owners want to get their own boards supported.

>>> I thought it will run only on 460.

>> Same here.

>>> Is 440 officially confirmed! Hopefully yes.

>> Not as far as I'm aware. But reading the statement I quoted made me think I may have
>> missed an announcement or so.

> The MorphOS Team has no SAM440 board, so there won´t be any port.

You just responded to posting #12 from August 2013 to which pega-1 already replied in posting #44 (August 2013 as well).

Addendum:

> Piru once said that MorphOS required cache coherency which he presented as reason
> that MorphOS couldn't be ported to MPC512x. If a MorphOS port to PPC460EX lacking
> cache coherency is possible, would that mean that a port to MPC512x is possible as well?

Question answered, I guess:

"Quark: Improved support for systems that are not cache coherent
Exec: Improved support for systems without cache coherence support
IDE/SATA: Support for systems without cache coherence
USB/PCIUSB: EHCI/OHCI support for machines without cache coherence"
http://www.morphos-team.net/releasenotes/3.8

Btw, Exec note says "Miscellaneous improvements to support the PPC440 family of CPUs". Shouldn't that say "PPC460" like the other notes do?


Edit: Missing cache coherency comes with some limitations, it seems.

[ Edited by Andreas_Wolf 20.08.2022 - 00:22 ]

Oh well, its ready.
And 3.8 has some other nice surprises, some immediately apparent, others that will be once the more adventurous of us try it out.

Addendum:

>> As far as I read, its funded by Acube

> As far as I read, it isn't:
> https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=6918&start=90

More interesting history on how the port came about:

"The whole Sam460 port only exists because of the X5000. If the X5000 board would have been available earlier, there probably would not be a Sam port at all. The Sam460 and the X5000 are quite similar, so the SAM was used to adapt MorphOS years before the X5000 was available (for developers)."
http://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=11037&start=205