How to run MorphOS on unsupported G5 PCIe
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12157 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    >> the MOS support list includes ASIX USB-LAN adapters,
    >> so would this work?

    > Thanks for pointing out! I completely missed that some
    > kind of USB-LAN with ASIX chipset are supported.

    It's also other chipsets. Seems you missed my comment I wrote 1½ hours before yours 1⅓ years ago ;-)
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  • MorphOS Developer
    cyfm
    Posts: 537 from 2003/4/11
    From: Germany
    I wouldn't recommend any of the ASIX chipset USB adapters, better get a supported PCIe eth card instead.
    Personally, I never managed to get any of those working and I'm not even sure if anyone else ever managed to ....
    I might look into adding support for the G5 PCIe onboard NIC at some point but not sure yet if its support is ever going to materialize.
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12157 from 2003/5/22
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    > I wouldn't recommend any of the ASIX chipset USB adapters [...].
    > Personally, I never managed to get any of those working and I'm
    > not even sure if anyone else ever managed to ....

    What has been reported to work with MorphOS is the Belkin F5D5050 based on the ADM8511 (Pegasus II) chipset. Problem is that it has to be v1 of the adapter as v2 has been reported as non-working.
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  • Just looking around
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    @cyfm if you can get Onboard LAN working you'll be making lots of happy G5 PCIE owners. I sold my old 2.3DC last week and the buyer said he was gonna go MorphOS and we got chatting. He mentioned network cards and I have plenty of spare Realtek LAN cards but its losing a slot that worries me!
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    ernsteiswuerfel
    Posts: 557 from 2015/6/18
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    @Andreas_Wolf You are correct - another one of the comment's I missed (or read over). ;-)

    @cyfm Ok, thanks for pointing out. Yes, G5 PCIe onboard NIC support would be nice but I know it's kinda luxury problem. Benefit would be less hassle with extra hardware (the 1st Realtek NIC I bought did work on Linux but not on MorphOS) and being able to put in a 'bigger' Radeon as 2nd card.
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  • Cocoon
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    eastone
    Posts: 44 from 2007/8/4
    From: Vaasa/Finland
    Is there any PCI-E card with Displayport that works with MorphOS?

    Regards,
    Kris
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12157 from 2003/5/22
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    > Is there any PCI-E card with Displayport that works with MorphOS?

    The first Radeon cards with DisplayPort were of the HD3000 (R600 GPU) series, which currently means no 3D hardware acceleration.
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  • Cocoon
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    eastone
    Posts: 44 from 2007/8/4
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    @Andreas_Wolf

    I don't need 3D acceleration at this moment. The problem is I have Debian installed next to MorphOS and would like to get a 2k resolution on both systems. I have several graphics cards, but none of them work as expected.

    E.g
    Radeon HD3450 offers max FullHD (thru HDMI, there is no DP) on both systems.
    Radeon HD 4650 also only FullHD (thru HDMI, DP gives black screen) and only on Morphos.
    Radeon HD6450 gives 2k (thru DP) on Debian and black screen (thru HDMI and DP) on Morphos.

    So I am asking if anyone is using Displayport on Morphos, Debian should handle it (I hope so).
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  • ASiegel
    Posts: 1376 from 2003/2/15
    From: Central Europe
    @eastone

    For the record, you really do not need DP for 2560x1440 (or 2560x1600).

    Dual link DVI is perfectly sufficient.

    Put differently, you will not have to give up 3D hardware acceleration in order to run a 2K display at its native resolution.
  • »25.08.22 - 15:31
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  • MorphOS Developer
    bigfoot
    Posts: 510 from 2003/4/11
    I don't think you'll currently have much luck with Display Port currently, unfortunately. Display Port support is something both Cyfm and I would like to get addressed, so it's not something that's completely forgotten about at least, just something that hasn't yet gotten done.

    If by 2k you mean 1440p (rather than, you know, 1920x1080, which would be 2k the same way that 3840x2160 is called 4k), then as Asiegel points out, dual link DVI should be sufficient for that. Now whether or not the mentioned hardware actually supports dual link DVI I don't know, but I'd expect at least the 4650 to do so, and I'm also not entirely sure whether MorphOS will correctly use dual link DVI hardware on those cards.
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  • ASiegel
    Posts: 1376 from 2003/2/15
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    Quote:

    bigfoot wrote:
    I'm also not entirely sure whether MorphOS will correctly use dual link DVI hardware on those cards.


    It has worked in the past with my Radeon 9600 Pro card if I used the first (or second) DVI port at least.

    If I recall correctly, dual link DVI support was the reason I upgraded up from a Radeon 9000.

    There are even Powerbooks with dual link DVI ports. Sadly, mine only supports single link DVI so I am stuck with 30 hz when I connect a 1440P display, which is certainly not everyone's cup of tea.
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  • MorphOS Developer
    bigfoot
    Posts: 510 from 2003/4/11
    Quote:

    ASiegel wrote:
    Quote:

    bigfoot wrote:
    I'm also not entirely sure whether MorphOS will correctly use dual link DVI hardware on those cards.


    It has worked in the past with my Radeon 9600 Pro card if I used the first (or second) DVI port at least.


    Completely different hardware and completely different code paths, so unfortunately dual link DVI support on older models doesn't really mean much in this case.
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