Pointed out to me by MZ user doffo.

https://www.facebook.com/phase5digital/?__mref=message_bubble

I don't see how that is possible considering Phase 5 went bankrupt and I don't think DCE is around anymore? If anyone answer this, it would be here on MZ.

I don't know but if it's the case it can be interesting for classic's users

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Certainly would be interesting if true, to see what was being produced. I'd be leery though and not an early buyer if I had a big box Amiga. Those last DCE made boards were pretty sketchy IIRC.

This Phase 5 is a UG (kind of a Ltd.), a bit more info:
https://www.moneyhouse.de/phase-5-digital-products-UG-haftungsbeschraenkt-Bad-Vilbel

A person named Fernandez Gomez is CEO. And - attention - the same person is CEO of a company called Amiga Technologies UG and Commodore Büromaschinen UG and Concorde Media UG
Obviously soemone is collecting big names.

I think caution should be paid.

[ Editiert durch Zylesea 23.09.2016 - 11:26 ]

Hmm:

phase 5 digital products UG
Weißdornweg 10
61118 Bad Vilbel
http://www.unternehmen24.info/Firmeninformationen/DE/4210302
Stammkapital: 100,00 EUR (nominal share capital)
Geschäftsführer: Fernandez Gomez, Salvador, Bad Vilbel


Amiga Technologies UG
Weißdornweg 10
61118 Bad Vilbel
http://www.unternehmen24.info/Firmeninformationen/DE/4211203
Stammkapital: 100,00 EUR.
Geschäftsführer: Fernandez Gomez, Salvador, Bad Vilbel

Commodore Büromaschinen UG
Weißdornweg 10
61118 Bad Vilbel
http://www.unternehmen24.info/Firmeninformationen/DE/4210906
Stammkapital: 100,00 EUR.
Geschäftsführer: Fernandez Gomez, Salvador, Bad Vilbel


300 EUR for three companies, not really expensive.

And looking at that address with google maps does not really show a high tech office (not that you would need one to produce good products).


Googling Mr. Gomez reveals also:

FWD Fernsehwerbung Deutschland GmbH
http://www.unternehmen24.info/Firmeninformationen/DE/3905806
might be insolvent

and as it seems the successor to FWD
Concorde Media UG (haftungsbeschränkt)
Stammkapital: 100,00 EUR.
Geschäftsführer: Fernandez Gomez, Salvador, Bad Vilbel
https://www.moneyhouse.de/Concorde-Media-UG-haftungsbeschraenkt-Bad-Vilbel

Website: http://www.p-5.eu (registered in October 2015, website last modified in January 2016)

Fernandez Gomez seems to have been part of bplan:

http://www.amiga-news.de/de/news/AN-2002-01-00213-DE.html

> Fernandez Gomez is CEO.

He was manager for public relations, sales and marketing at bplan until November 2002, and he also worked at Phase 5 support before that ("[...] was in the old company back in 1996-2000").

http://www.amiga-news.de/en/news/search.html?frmWords=salva+gomez
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.amiga-news.de/de/news/AN-1999-03-00294-DE.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20061011122538/http://www.amigamesse.de/bplan/news.html
https://de.linkedin.com/in/salvador-fernandez-gomez-8377bb92
https://www.xing.com/profile/Salvador_FernandezGomez

I remember pictures of Amiga30 in Neuss last year that showed him with his booth of old Phase 5 products.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207563678147187&set=p.10207563678147187&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207566110567996&set=p.10207566110567996&type=3&theater

There's an old website of his:

http://web.archive.org/web/20080701015552/http://www.amigamesse.de/


Edit: added quote about his Phase 5 times

[ Edited by Andreas_Wolf 10.01.2018 - 15:44 ]

The location would be okay for original P5/bplan.
The picture of the office in facebook looks like a basement room of a normal residentual house.

Wasn't he at Neuss last year trying to sell P5 prototypes for insane prices?

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Ok, if he had something to do with Phase 5 or DCE, then somebody we are familiar with ought to be familiar with him.
The mistake would be in assuming this company has any real relationship to the original.

[ Edited by Jim 23.09.2016 - 14:59 ]

> The location would be okay for original P5/bplan.

Original bplan still exists :-)

lol - what is all that confusion?? ;)

I don't bother these days with BPlan I just stick to . . .

The first plan, that being the 'A' Plan - otherwise known as the Avoid Plan - Avoid this new and dubious 'Phase5' like the plague, until proven otherwise.

Oh well. :) Figured I better chime in so I don't upset some over at AW.net .

All it takes is a single click over at the Commodore Amiga Facebook page to find out what goes on. Rumors or not, don't take things so serious when you read them. ;)

[ Edited by Doffo 24.09.2016 - 01:34 ]

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Wait, I thought you were a figment of my imagination? LOL @ some people in the Kommunity...

Amazing how some people cannot discuss or speculate without immediately getting butthurt.


[ Edited by redrumloa 24.09.2016 - 14:47 ]

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Or everyone who lost money on a Cyberstorm G3 16 years ago could get together and form a class action to get the money out of him. After all, buy Phase5's name, buy its debts.

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Its a new company named Phase 5, or don't you get that? They don't owe any debts from the previous companies. And if they have anything related to the old intellectual property, I doubt anyone could lay claim to those rights after this much time.

Again, get over the butthurt.

> buy Phase5's name, buy its debts.

Phase 5 was dissolved ages ago, so he probably didn't even have to buy the name. And even if he did, this would have nothing to do with debts of the former and unrelated (bar the name and the fact that the founder/owner/CEO was an employee) company.

> if they have anything related to the old intellectual property, I doubt anyone could lay claim
> to those rights after this much time.

If they're going to reproduce old Amiga expansion hardware as they say, they better have obtained the respective licenses/rights to the hardware/firmware/software.

http://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=11391&forum=3&start=12

Oh, I had not considered the rom on the hardware.
Yep, that would be a problem.

Good point, won't work without that.

New "announcement":

"The Cyberstorm PPC 3 Professional Series DDR4 comes with a 68060/? MHz + ? PPC multicore CPU including the DDR4 RAM interface and some more enhancements with a pricing of 2.980,- Euro inluding 19% of German Taxes (2.504,- Euro net price) We did not mention the exact PPC CPU for different reasons, but will reveal detailed information on it in a further Press Release."
https://www.facebook.com/phase5digital/posts/1743307042376474?comment_id=1744515962255582&reply_comment_id=1744605015580010

Except POWER9, which is out of the question here, the only multi-core PPC CPU with DDR4 memory controller I know is the QorIQ T1.

lmfao. Screw that...those prices are crazy.

3,000 euros for a T12 based board.
Ambitious.

I've just been reading comments by this new Phase 5 claimant on Facebook.

It's akin to reading comments from a 12yr old, not a professionally run business that is trying to seek customers.

So many insane nutjobs in the Amiga scene it's unreal.