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jcmarcos wrote:
Go Brad! By the moment you show your wife the size of a MacMini compared to the Huge PowerMac, she will immediately agree on that few extra bucks. Not to mention the Mini means inmediate enjoyment!


So you suggesting that all the mails I get telling me constantly that "size really matters" are actually lies? "

Thats funny as !

Okay Okay.. ive been thinking this through. You guys and girls have the experience. I'll wait for a mini.

Unfortunately the algorithm for Amiga related WAF is the following
IF(Purchase.Contains("Amiga"))
If(Purchase.Contains("Mac"))
Waf=Waf*0.5;
Else
Waf=Waf*0.25;
Else
Waf=0.75;

Return Waf

if i mention its just Amiga then not likely.
If i mention its actually a Mac its more likely
If its a computer i can use for other stuff its mostly likely.

Notice all those WAF values are decimals.
Computer purchases instantly are penalised)

Thanks all for the comments.

I really dont mind flashing bios etc in cards and tinkering but a nice quiet mini sounds ideal.

:-D! Brad.. Now all is clear!
Well, DIM(Waf) to minor values and go buy a Mini. Don't forget to Poke 54296,0
Seriously, let your wife fall in love of Mac Mini and she will ask you to buy one
...ehm.. I accept no responsability...

@Andreas_Wolf

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I'm not sure but I guess that most Mac cards that use custom bios. Perhaps for autobooting from HD controllers?

On the other hand MorphOS driver could initialize the card without using any BIOS although that may require more knowledge about the specific card (e.g. like they initialized Voodoo3 on classics without using any BIOS)

Brad: Mac Mini is quite nice machine to run OSX as well so if there will be some apps unavailable under MorphOS you can probably find OSX version. That makes Mac Mini perfectly usable as a small desktop computer, meaby your wife will like it.

> I guess that most Mac cards that use custom bios. Perhaps for autobooting
> from HD controllers?

Sounds plausible.

> On the other hand MorphOS driver could initialize the card without using any BIOS
> although that may require more knowledge about the specific card (e.g. like they
> initialized Voodoo3 on classics without using any BIOS)

...or Radeons for that matter?

http://www.elbox.com/news_08_03_15.html

Very interesting! I'd never given any thought to this. When I was working with 68K based boards that had ISA slots our OS also ignored the presence of a PC BIOS (although it made coding drivers tricky - since some cards based on the same chipset wouldn't work without driver tweaks because of minor design differences).

There really isn't any reason that a PC video card wouldn't work in an Apple under MorphOS with no modification except for the need to mask the pins on the card edge that we're already covering (due to Apple's non-standard AGP application).

A quick question. How does a Pegasos boot from a Symbios SCSI disk controller when the PC BIOS on those cards is written for an X86 based machine?

[ Edited by Jim on 2010/5/21 4:40 ]

The Firmware used by Pegasos and Efika has an x86 emulator.

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I believe the Pegasos firmware supports these cards directly, I think x86 emulation is only used for PC gfx cards.

@Andreas_Wolf

Matt "neko" Sealey could confirm us if the x86 emulator is used for something else than gfx cards

@Crumb
With my symbios card at least there's no bios output like I get from my gfx cards.

Interesting, it must be firmware support. Without low-level support the machine wouldn't even know an X86 BIOS equipped card was there.

There's one advantage to the Pegasos. I don't think we're going to modify Apple firmware.

Not much longer to go...

Just goes to show that stuff always happens when you're not looking -

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