Installing MOS on the Mini... done :-)
  • Order of the Butterfly
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    DiskDoctor
    Posts: 306 from 2009/4/17
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    Hi,

    I need an urgent help.

    Here's what I've got.

    I got MacOSX instalation already (60G) and Free space 10G. I used second version of jacadcaps manual, thus Ubuntu Live to make a partition system similar to that on the manual. Because my Free space had been made before OSX installation, my partitioning order after Ubuntu partitioning was roughly as follows (from memory):

    Quote:


    Unknown 31 KB
    unallocated128 MB
    hfs boot 64 MB
    unformatted 10 GB
    unallocated 128 MB
    hfs+ 60 GB



    On such a configuration created seamlessly by Ubuntu partitioner, I ran installing. After finishing all steps, while hitting Install button I encountered error, something like No dos disk/128MB is required.

    When I looked at the mount utility, the disk for MorphOS (10G) had no recognized SFS filetype (it seemed unformatted, alas there was no step to format it before!!). So I hit Format button (Utilities>Format), hoping that it would solve the problem.

    (...)
    (...)
    (...)
    ...
    (...)

    It was 18 hours ago and only 27% of the 10G partition has been formatted since...

    1) Congrats for the idea of slowing MOS down during install routines
    2) Is this formatting a possible workaround of my problem?
    3) If not, what should I do?

    Unfortunately I do not have possible resources and time to perform full OSX backup & reinstall. I really wish to have it untouched.

    Thanks again in advance, hoping to be getting closer.

    [ Edited by DiskDoctor on 2009/10/18 20:15 ]
    Was: Mac Mini PPC running MorphOS 2.4
    Now: Amiga Forever 2010 with AmiKit and AmigaSYS
    Not used: Icaros Desktop 1.2 (reason: no wifi)
    Planned soon: an OS4 system
    Shortly then: a MOS notebook (wifi is a must-have)
  • »17.10.09 - 13:19
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    itix
    Posts: 1520 from 2003/2/24
    From: Finland
    Do not use Format but Quick Format instead. We probably should update the terminology there because Quick Format should be used in most cases. Regular format is just for special cases...
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  • »17.10.09 - 13:33
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    DiskDoctor
    Posts: 306 from 2009/4/17
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    @itix

    Thx 4 prompt response.

    Firstly I tried to quickformat the 10G MOS partition. But it did nothing since as expected, the partition was not formatted at all, in fact it never been.

    Then I chose Format as the only option.

    I guess one can quickformat drives that are formatted only. I did everything according to jacadcaps manual. I just "swapped" the OSX MOS partitioning sequence (and thus spacing etc). Because while in OSX, my partition scheme had been like this:

    [Free Space 10G]
    [MacMini fs 60G]

    Not the opposite, hence my previous diagram differs from original (but hopefully, does the same).

    In jacadcaps manual v.2 there's an Ubuntu screenshot showing that MOS partition is unformatted (and no instruction to format it in linux, neither in MOS during installation). So I do not see anything wrong in what I did. Maybe the manual/instructions need slight tuning.

    EDIT: Quickformat didn't setup MOS filetype.

    [ Edited by DiskDoctor on 2009/10/17 17:42 ]
    Was: Mac Mini PPC running MorphOS 2.4
    Now: Amiga Forever 2010 with AmiKit and AmigaSYS
    Not used: Icaros Desktop 1.2 (reason: no wifi)
    Planned soon: an OS4 system
    Shortly then: a MOS notebook (wifi is a must-have)
  • »17.10.09 - 13:41
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    itix
    Posts: 1520 from 2003/2/24
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    Quote:


    I guess one can quickformat drives that are formatted only. I did everything according to jacadcaps manual.



    You can quick format any drive at any time. Quick Format builds filesystem structure to your partition and it is ready to use after that.

    Quote:


    EDIT: Quickformat didn't setup MOS filetype.



    Neither Format would do that.

    Anyway I gotta go now so I can not help more right now.
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  • »17.10.09 - 14:10
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 306 from 2009/4/17
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    Quote:


    itix wrote:
    Quote:


    EDIT: Quickformat didn't setup MOS filetype.



    Neither Format would do that.




    It is really hard to believe to me, working in IT for 10 years... What formatting is then? Erasing files only? Why when setting up a pendrive flash memory one picks e.g. FAT16 or FAT32??? What is it then? A label?
    Was: Mac Mini PPC running MorphOS 2.4
    Now: Amiga Forever 2010 with AmiKit and AmigaSYS
    Not used: Icaros Desktop 1.2 (reason: no wifi)
    Planned soon: an OS4 system
    Shortly then: a MOS notebook (wifi is a must-have)
  • »17.10.09 - 14:33
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 306 from 2009/4/17
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    An update - meanwile the progress crossed 28 per cent limit. In this pace I'll have it done some Tuesday evening, GMT+1.
    Was: Mac Mini PPC running MorphOS 2.4
    Now: Amiga Forever 2010 with AmiKit and AmigaSYS
    Not used: Icaros Desktop 1.2 (reason: no wifi)
    Planned soon: an OS4 system
    Shortly then: a MOS notebook (wifi is a must-have)
  • »17.10.09 - 14:42
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  • ASiegel
    Posts: 1387 from 2003/2/15
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_formatting

    Quote:

    High-level formatting is the process of setting up an empty file system on the disk and installing a boot sector. This alone takes little time, and is sometimes referred to as a "quick format".

    In addition, the entire disk may optionally be scanned for defects, which takes considerably longer, up to several hours on larger hard disks.
  • »17.10.09 - 14:43
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    Golem
    Posts: 766 from 2003/2/28
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    Quote:


    DiskDoctor wrote:

    It is really hard to believe to me, working in IT for 10 years... What formatting is then? Erasing files only? Why when setting up a pendrive flash memory one picks e.g. FAT16 or FAT32??? What is it then? A label?


    Format will prepare the partition with the filesystem you have configured in HDConfig or the Storage section of IWizard.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 306 from 2009/4/17
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    @golem

    But getting back to the topic - am I to wait until Tuesday or cancel the format and do something else?

    I'll mention again that Full format of MOS partition wasn't mentioned in jacadcaps' instruction.

    After hitting install I got some "not a dos disk / requires 128MB" error. What do I do wrong? The partition sequence? What's the proper one in my case then? I assume I can merge the existing partitions in that case...
    Was: Mac Mini PPC running MorphOS 2.4
    Now: Amiga Forever 2010 with AmiKit and AmigaSYS
    Not used: Icaros Desktop 1.2 (reason: no wifi)
    Planned soon: an OS4 system
    Shortly then: a MOS notebook (wifi is a must-have)
  • »17.10.09 - 14:59
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    Golem
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    Cancel it, quick format should be fine once you have the filesystem configured properly with HDConfig. Before clicking Install you should verify that "Install to:" points to a correctly formatted SFS partition, this should be listed in the top part of the window.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 306 from 2009/4/17
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    Quote:


    Golem wrote:
    Cancel it, quick format should be fine once you have the filesystem configured properly with HDConfig. Before clicking Install you should verify that "Install to:" points to a correctly formatted SFS partition, this should be listed in the top part of the window.


    OK HDConfig says my 10 G MOS partition (DH2) is "SFS nodos". I guess that "nodos" makes an error. Any way for handling that?

    EDIT: boot and mount flags are on. Hint: see my physical partition scheme quoted above.

    [ Edited by DiskDoctor on 2009/10/17 19:38 ]
    Was: Mac Mini PPC running MorphOS 2.4
    Now: Amiga Forever 2010 with AmiKit and AmigaSYS
    Not used: Icaros Desktop 1.2 (reason: no wifi)
    Planned soon: an OS4 system
    Shortly then: a MOS notebook (wifi is a must-have)
  • »17.10.09 - 15:36
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    Golem
    Posts: 766 from 2003/2/28
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    Yes, nodos indicates that the partition is not formatted.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 306 from 2009/4/17
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    Quote:


    Golem wrote:
    Yes, nodos indicates that the partition is not formatted.


    Soooooo....

    (I only ask because jacadcaps' manual doesn't give a word how to do that)
    Was: Mac Mini PPC running MorphOS 2.4
    Now: Amiga Forever 2010 with AmiKit and AmigaSYS
    Not used: Icaros Desktop 1.2 (reason: no wifi)
    Planned soon: an OS4 system
    Shortly then: a MOS notebook (wifi is a must-have)
  • »17.10.09 - 16:30
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    Golem
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    In the partition overview there should be a button labeled "Format" next to the unformatted partition, this will allow you to (quick) format the partition.
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    @DiskDoctor,

    Can I ask what you have done in the IT industry for the past 10 years? Just curious.
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  • »17.10.09 - 20:24
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 306 from 2009/4/17
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    Quote:


    Golem wrote:
    In the partition overview there should be a button labeled "Format" next to the unformatted partition, this will allow you to (quick) format the partition.


    Well, I did it once already, now one more time, this time I got "Successful" communicate after quickformatting.

    Installing.... Yeah!!!!! Thanks @golem & @itix &ASiegel. I hope it only gets my registration closer.

    @amigadave

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    Probably I should know such low-level issues entirely, but in my all jobs, I always managed to have it done somehow (if applicable of course) :-)

    EDIT* It just installed and booted - great job everyone, really big thx for help, especially for @jacadcaps.
    Was: Mac Mini PPC running MorphOS 2.4
    Now: Amiga Forever 2010 with AmiKit and AmigaSYS
    Not used: Icaros Desktop 1.2 (reason: no wifi)
    Planned soon: an OS4 system
    Shortly then: a MOS notebook (wifi is a must-have)
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