Support for PowerMac11,2
  • Order of the Butterfly
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    asrael22
    Posts: 409 from 2014/6/11
    From: Germany
    Hi.

    I'm currently operating a PowerMac7,3 and it's working well.
    However, I have 2 PM11,2 sitting here as well and as I recall there was some work being done for supporting 11,2?
    What's the state there?


    Cheers,
    Manfred
  • »09.10.25 - 16:15
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    Kronos
    Posts: 2483 from 2003/2/24
    They are pretty much supported.

    You need:

    - a Radeon GFX card, either a genuine Apple one (rare) or a PC card with AtomBIOS (X1?00, HD???? see list on morphos-team.net
    With a PC card you want to keep the Apple NVIDIA card in the system.

    - A NIC, RTL8168 is the common solution

    You get (compare to an older G5 at the same clock):

    - little more performance
    - a little less power consumption


    You can go all in and install 1 CPU from a Quad into a 2.0 or 2.3 model which will not only give you 2.5GHz but also the 1.25GHz system clock of the Quad without the insane noise and heat of a real one.
  • »09.10.25 - 16:33
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    asrael22
    Posts: 409 from 2014/6/11
    From: Germany
    OK, cool.

    I'll check out what's in those G5s (don't know exactly, one runs Linux the other MacOSX 10.5).

    Is it just supported with MorphOS 3.19 and can/could I just swap the HDD (SDD) (theoretically if the gfx card works, they're both just 2Ghz versions.)?

    [ Edited by asrael22 09.10.2025 - 17:56 ]
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    Kronos
    Posts: 2483 from 2003/2/24
    If there is any supported Radeon present it should just boot.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12428 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > as I recall there was some work being done for supporting 11,2?
    > What's the state there?

    Since you last asked 6 years ago right after the MorphOS 3.12 release, a least the following was improved:

    "Devs/Audiomodes/I2s
    - Disable internal amplifier if device is connected to HP/line out of PMac11,2/PMac12,1/iMacG5
    - Control headphone mute based on plug status on PMac11,2 as well
    "
    https://www.morphos-team.net/releasenotes/3.15

    "Quark
    - Fixed detection of some MacOF Bios R500/X19xx PCIe cards on PMac11,2 G5 machines
    "
    https://www.morphos-team.net/releasenotes/3.18
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12428 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > Is it just supported with MorphOS 3.19 [...]?

    What do you mean?
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    jPV
    Posts: 2181 from 2003/2/24
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    Quote:

    asrael22 wrote:

    Is it just supported with MorphOS 3.19 and can/could I just swap the HDD (SDD) (theoretically if the gfx card works, they're both just 2Ghz versions.)?

    Yes, you don't need to do anything extra and all the "unofficial" support is there build-in, so swapping or cloning the HDD/SSD should work (except for the registration of course).


    [ Edited by jPV 10.10.2025 - 07:05 ]
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    matt3
    Posts: 752 from 2004/2/10
    For the least amount of headaches, find a 1900 PPC Mac card.


    PM 11,2 and MorphOS.


    The 1117 single processor systems can be updated to a 2.5GHz processor:


    2.5 update.

    [ Edited by matt3 10.10.2025 - 04:26 ]
  • »10.10.25 - 09:12
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    asrael22
    Posts: 409 from 2014/6/11
    From: Germany
    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > as I recall there was some work being done for supporting 11,2?
    > What's the state there?

    Since you last asked 6 years ago right after the MorphOS 3.12 release, a least the following was improved:




    Excellent. At least someone has the overview. I asked pretty much the same question. :D
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12428 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > 2.5 update.

    Unfortunately, he keeps repeating his "G5 has SATA2 and SATA3 ports" nonsense, while in reality they are both SATA1 with one of them seemingly being more forward compatible than the other. Why doesn't he ask himself the question how a computer from 2005 should be able to support a standard published in 2009?
    Also, opposed to what he tells in this video, there was never a 2.7 GHz PCIe-based G5.
    And why is he running Elude's Dust demo directly on MorphOS yet he claims it's running through WHDLoad (thus UAE)?
    Besides, to nitpick, the MorphOS demo mode is 30 minutes, not 20, and it's also slowing down in addition and not just showing the nag requester.
  • »10.10.25 - 11:12
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    asrael22
    Posts: 409 from 2014/6/11
    From: Germany
    Quote:

    Kronos wrote:
    They are pretty much supported.

    You need:

    - a Radeon GFX card, either a genuine Apple one (rare) or a PC card with AtomBIOS (X1?00, HD???? see list on morphos-team.net
    With a PC card you want to keep the Apple NVIDIA card in the system.



    Seems this one has a NVIDIA A386 installed.
    So I take it this is not supported and I need a card from the supported one at the link you posted?
    I think I didn't get what you meant with "With a PC card you want to keep the Apple NVIDIA card in the system"?
    You mean there would then be two gfx cards in there?
  • »10.10.25 - 11:49
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    asrael22
    Posts: 409 from 2014/6/11
    From: Germany
    > 2.5 update

    In that video he doesn't seem to have another NIC installed. Does the internal NIC not work?
  • »10.10.25 - 12:01
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