Hi,
is there a way to create and display ANY other mode than that which is native for particular ACD? - 1680x1050 for 20" model and 1920x1080 for 23" one? Anything I'm trying to set fails or displays mess on the screen.

> is there a way to create and display ANY other mode
> than that which is native for particular ACD?

Short answer: no.
Longer answer: The MorphOS Team member responsible for the 2D drivers told another user (#25, German, beware) that the required scaling could be handled directly by the Radeon hardware like done on the PowerBooks. To implement such driver feature he needs (access to) an ACD, though.

Well, I can send one to the MOS team, no problem at all

[ Edited by arti040 30.11.2024 - 22:43 ]

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Bravo, no excuse anymore

I already contacted MOS team. Cross fingers!

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Ah if that is the winner formula I should loan my Nemo board
to MOS Nautilus submarine long time ago :D

Hope it will work out. I believe they should do stand driver too :D

Stand parody song

[ Edited by vox 02.12.2024 - 11:59 ]

I kinda missed cyfm asking about getting his hands on such displays...

If he wants to tackle that issue I could lend him a 15" (1024x768) and 22" (1600x1024).
These would be the older acrylic 3 feet screens.

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Thats just great, more overall devices supported, and more Apple stuff of the era, the marrier.
Beside Fienix Linux, MorphOS is now only way to get G4 and G5 Macs usable. Even some newer hardware
that can be attached to those.

> Beside Fienix Linux, MorphOS is now only way to get G4 and G5 Macs usable.

Fienix is by far not the only recent Linux distribution still available also for PPC32 and especially PPC64BE. Some more examples there:

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=12325

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I remember dat (like memberies)
Well as G5 owner I would love to see one PPC64 G5 optimised distro. From x1000 life
I have tested dozen distros and MINT PPC and latest Ubuntu with MATE proven best, Debian most stable.

> I would love to see one PPC64 G5 optimised distro.

There are several still. Essentially all Linux distributions with binaries for PPC64BE (except Debian-based ones of all things, see below) should be well optimized for G5/PPC970 (i.e. including AltiVec/VMX support), for instance:

https://github.com/kth5/archpower/releases (archpower-[...]-powerpc64.iso)
http://distfiles.adelielinux.org/adelie/1.0-beta6/iso/ (adelie-live-[...]-ppc64-[...].iso)
http://download.opensuse.org/ports/ppc/tumbleweed/iso/ (openSUSE-Tumbleweed-DVD-ppc64-[...].iso)
https://repo.chimera-linux.org/live/latest/ (chimera-linux-ppc64-LIVE-[...].iso)
https://github.com/cruxppc/cruxppc-ng-3.7/releases (crux-ppc64-[...].iso )
http://dl.t2sde.org/binary/2024/ (t2-[...]-ppc6432-[...]-970.iso, 32-bit userland though)
https://www.gentoo.org/downloads/#ppc (PPC64 stage 3)

> From x1000 life I have tested dozen distros and MINT PPC and
> latest Ubuntu with MATE proven best, Debian most stable.

The issue with Debian and all Debian-based distributions on big-endian PPC64 CPUs with AltiVec/VMX (G5/PPC970, PA6T, e6500, Cell PPE, POWER6/7, POWER8/9 and newer in BE mode) since 2016 has been that AltiVec/VMX support was disabled on the default Debian baseline to accommodate it to the SIMD-less e5500-based platforms (like AmigaOne X5000/CyrusPlus). Apparently, the current maintainer seeks to revoke that decision, which will be bad for e5500-based platforms, but good for the other big-endian PPC64 platforms.

@Andreas_Wolf: Thanks for sharing!

Didn't even thought about ArchLinux having an unofficial ppc/ppc64-Port, but there it is! Having said that I now recall stumbling over some ppc64 Arch users on upstream Mesa bug trackers but again, I did gave it a 2nd thought. Have to try that Arch port when I got some more time.

My experiences with OpenSUSE and Chimera were not as good. They booted somehow but had several glitches. Though that was more than a year ago I last tried them.

Adelie works, but is a bit cumbersome and rough for the time being.

T2SDE should work well, regarding how much effort Rene puts in it to run well on alternative archs.

Gentoo works well for me on ppc/ppc64 for quite some time and cross-building via distcc on faster machines is not too bad. Even rust works well on ppc/ppc64 and both GCC 14 and CLANG 19 got some annoying ppc bugs fixed recently.

[ Editiert durch ernsteiswuerfel 05.12.2024 - 23:07 ]

> Didn't even thought about ArchLinux having an
> unofficial ppc/ppc64-Port, but there it is!

Yes, big-endian PPC64 support was first added in February 2023. In March 2023, I made an edit to reflect that addition (#61) in that other thread. I should probably better have made a new comment ;-)
(PPC32 support was first added in October 2020, that was when I added ArchPower to that August 2020 RiscySlack comment.)

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Not to hijack the thread, but just for my triple boot experiment on G5 iMac
which one does support Altivec, can use Radeon in iMac 3D and likely via
Synaptic included can include MATE?
It would be best if its GRUB could see MorphOS and MacOS X, but I suppoost that aint easy.

>> Essentially all Linux distributions with binaries for PPC64BE (except
>> Debian-based ones of all things [...]) should be well optimized for
>> G5/PPC970 (i.e. including AltiVec/VMX support), for instance: [...]

> which one does support Altivec

As I wrote, all of those 7 should because they are not Debian-based.

> can use Radeon in iMac 3D

They all should.

> and likely via Synaptic included can include MATE?

Synaptic is a GUI for package manager APT, which is used on Debian-based distributions. So to me it would seem that Synaptic/APT and AltiVec/VMX are mutually exclusive here. However, MATE desktop doesn't have to be installed by Synaptic/APT but can also be installed by other package managers on distributions not based on Debian. If you follow my links in comment #11, you can see that Adelie Linux even has a PPC64 Live ISO image specifically with MATE (adelie-live-mate-ppc64-[...].iso).

> It would be best if its GRUB could see MorphOS and MacOS X

As I told you in that other thread (#6), I recommend to resort to the built-in graphical boot menu of your iMac.

Because I only use apple monitors on apple systems, proper scaling would be very useful feature for me.