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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Posts: 979 from 2003/6/28
    @katos1
    Yes, i coincide with you, that idea is better than mine ;-)
    We need a response of BBRV about this...
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Donar
    Posts: 142 from 2003/12/27
    From: Germany
    Has anybody heard about features for MOS 1.5?

    I heard that the Beta has 3D Drivers for Radeon 7xxx.
    Mabe somebody heard of firewire?
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Zylesea
    Posts: 2057 from 2003/6/4
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    timofonic wrote:

    - More fast and better than USB2 and IDE, more stable data transfer...
    ...Any more?

    Seeing that core developers ignore us, why not make some type of massive petition (please not use petitiononline.com or similar) as send emails, protest on other sites...?

    We need protest more, make that they hear to us and provide solutions to OUR problems and OUR needs, and not be as stupid windows users...


    FW isn't that much more advanced compared to usb 2.0. Plus usb 2.0 is cheaper and available. Firewie is nice but an expensive technique which does not offer that advantages which it's more cost could imply.
    It's more like usb being ethernet and FW token ring. Technically token ring was nice, but in the end ethernet did the race.

    But sure having fw is better than not having it. developers haven't forgotten it, but it's not higest priority.
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Donar
    Posts: 142 from 2003/12/27
    From: Germany
    As for the Pro's for Firewire:
    Firewire has lower CPU usage i think, because
    the firewire controller handles more than its USB counterpart.
    A feature of Firewire is direct link from device to device.
    Thats why Intel hates it, you need no PC as Digital HUB.

    And for reasons of fairness we should speed wise
    compare USB 2.0 to IEEE1394B aka Firewire 800.
    Firewire is faster here :-)

    It's more expensive that's true. But a Peg G4 1GHz
    is more expensive as an PIII 1 GHz too. :-)

    Greetz
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Paochi
    Posts: 136 from 2004/3/23
    From: Italy
    Why core Mos developes and Pegasos HW engeneer are so close about MOs and Pegasos low level specification ...
    Because, and this is a bit depressing, this low level knowledge of some people can lead to a direct porting under AmigaOne/aos4 or some parts of the Marvell chipset are NDA and can be developed only by Bplan guyz (1gbit ethernet) ... see the OpenBsd story.
    Today we have to hope that Mos core developers are strong and stable to support us (I AM A ball destroyer on #morphos) and to include the cutted part of Mos(TcpIp stack, firewire support, Radeon 3d support that are planned in the 1.5 version ... the 1gigabit ethernet support is a different matter).
    Anyway I ws impressed: impressed by my Pegasos2 G3 speed and stability with Pagestream and Imagefx (that are not native). By the light light weight of MOS and the good opportunities that Linux and MacOnLinux especially can give to this machine.
    We need hope, my friend. In the last 2 years Ralph, Frank, David, Emmanuele, Martin and all new "busy guyz" did a really good job ... something that create a new hope in ourselves.
    Let's hope :-D
    "I hope that all my toys are, first of all, funny!" (Jay Miner)
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    AyoS
    Posts: 410 from 2003/8/13
    From: West Palm Beac...
    @paochi,

    I agree that the MOS Development team has done a good job. I must also add this bit of History:

    When the Amiga was first released in 1985 some of the early developers wrote software that made direct hits at the hardware/Rom while getting around the software. When new Roms came out 1.2, 1.3, the old software was broken!! This upset many of the developers which made claims that Amiga/commodore were unprofessional. The truth of the matter was the the Amiga was in its early stage of Development, many design changes were made, in an evolutionary way, that made the Amiga more successfull in the future.

    Personally, If I were Genesi, I would only want people to write apps that make function calls to the API, this would stop software from becoming totally useless when low-level changes have to be made.

    Just my opinion,

    Katos
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Paochi
    Posts: 136 from 2004/3/23
    From: Italy
    Absolutely Katos :-D
    It was exactly what happened.
    "I hope that all my toys are, first of all, funny!" (Jay Miner)
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