SSD: IDE vs SATA Hack in Powerbook G4 (& maybe MacMini G4)
  • Just looking around
    karner
    Posts: 4 from 2013/9/29
    This is more of a general HW question than a MOS-specific one, but since many (all?) people here seem like DIY types here goes:

    I'm trying to decide on a proper IDE SDD or a SATA SSD w/IDE-SATA Adapter in my PB G4. The latter is cheaper by far (from what I've seen), but from what I can tell it involves physically cutting up the innards a bit. (I haven't opened mine up yet.)

    Sample IDE Drive:
    http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/SSDMLP120/

    SATA Install Hack:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7CmHMTtcCk

    The former comes with a 3 year warranty which is pretty compelling.

    Anyone here try the latter?
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 508 from 2010/10/14
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    Suppose if you don't want to start cutting/modifying the Powerbook, You can try for the SSD IDE drive. Though I did a mSata 32GB drive in my Mac Mini with an adapter. Works great!
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  • Just looking around
    karner
    Posts: 4 from 2013/9/29
    That's an excellent suggestion. I'd totally forgotten about mSata drives.

    On a quick search, they're coming up in a good price range. Thanks!
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Derringer
    Posts: 103 from 2008/8/4
    From: Budapest, Hung...
    Quote:

    karner wrote:

    SATA Install Hack:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7CmHMTtcCk




    Keep in mind that this video shows the 17" modell. In the 15" modell the space is a little bit smaller, so most of the adapter which is work in the 17" will not work in the 15" modell.

    If you choose 1,8" SSD or hunt down a 2,5" SSD which has smaller PCB (rare) or choose Msata you have to fasten it inside.

    Thats why after all i put IDE SSD on my PB.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Intuition
    Posts: 1110 from 2013/5/24
    From: Nederland
    I use an mSATA SSD with a 5v 44-pin IDE-mSATA adapter and PFS3 for the filesystem in my PowerBook 5,8. No cutting required. :)

    I just wrapped the SSD and the adapter in insulating material as a precaution.

    [ Edited by Intuition 30.09.2013 - 09:42 ]
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  • »30.09.13 - 08:39
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  • Butterfly
    Butterfly
    WB_Coder
    Posts: 66 from 2014/5/1
    Quote:

    karner wrote:
    This is more of a general HW question than a MOS-specific one, but since many (all?) people here seem like DIY types here goes:

    I'm trying to decide on a proper IDE SDD or a SATA SSD w/IDE-SATA Adapter in my PB G4. The latter is cheaper by far (from what I've seen), but from what I can tell it involves physically cutting up the innards a bit. (I haven't opened mine up yet.)

    Sample IDE Drive:
    http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/SSDMLP120/

    SATA Install Hack:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7CmHMTtcCk

    The former comes with a 3 year warranty which is pretty compelling.

    Anyone here try the latter?


    Which solution to replacing your hdd with an ssd did you choose?

    Has anyone researched the speed differences between the PATA SSD drives and a MSATA with MSATA to 44pin IDE adapter? Or are they the same speed?
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  • MorphOS Developer
    geit
    Posts: 1053 from 2004/9/23
    Quote:


    Has anyone researched the speed differences between the PATA SSD drives and a MSATA with MSATA to 44pin IDE adapter? Or are they the same speed?



    They all max out the IDE bottleneck anyway.

    PATA is a waste of money anyway. Better get a modern SSD with MSATA or SATA. Even the cheapest model will be faster than ide can handle. Some SSDs get slower over time, but even that does not matter for our systems. if they handle 300MB/s or 500MB/s is irrelevant, so just take a proper vendor and the best price option for the size you want.

    I prefer SanDisk SSDs. I already have two running 24/7 and my PowerMac will get one soon, too.
  • »01.07.14 - 16:02
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    pampers
    Posts: 1061 from 2009/2/26
    From: Tczew, Poland
    Quote:

    Intuition wrote:
    I use an mSATA SSD with a 5v 44-pin IDE-mSATA adapter and PFS3 for the filesystem in my PowerBook 5,8. No cutting required. :)

    I just wrapped the SSD and the adapter in insulating material as a precaution.


    EDIT: Doesn't matter anymore ;)

    [ Edited by pampers 20.07.2014 - 17:09 ]
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  • »20.07.14 - 18:56
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