Installation on Efika Board.
  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    XDelusion
    Posts: 602 from 2010/10/27
    A few questions.

    First and foremost, I read the Installation guide here:

    http://www.morphos.de/installation

    I downloaded the Efika IMG file and renamed it from

    morphos-3.1-efikainstall.img

    to

    EFIKA.IMG

    Booted up my system, typed in

    list-files scsi:0

    It saw all the files on my USB stick.

    I then typed boot scsi:0 EFIKA.IMG

    And I got an eternal command prompt, MorphOS still has not loaded and it's been almost 10 minutes.

    The USB stick is a 2.0 stick.

    What next? Why wouldn't MorphOS be booting so I can continue on to the next stage of installation?

    Should I have my Efika board connected the the network first or a hard drive for that matter?

    Yes, I don't have a hard drive installed yet, I'm just trying to make sure I know what to do for when I do have a spare hard drive ready.

    Thanks in advance!

    EDIT: It finally booted into MorphOS. Man that was slow!

    [ Edited by XDelusion 12.04.2013 - 16:45 ]
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  • »12.04.13 - 19:43
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    Kronos
    Posts: 2335 from 2003/2/24
    I have encountered many USB-sticks that just won't work while installing on the Efika and even those that do are horribly slow (well it is USB 1.1 afterall).

    My advice:
    Take a screwdriver
    Take out the HD
    Connect it another MorphOS-puter
    Make it RDB-partioned and create some SFS partitions (Efika-OF can read those)
    Place morphos-3.1-efikainstall.img and the full 3.1 ISO onto (well you could just install 3.1 here, but thats not advised)
    Put back HD into Efika
    Start the morphos-3.1-efikainstall.img from HD (muuuuuucccch faster) and when running iWizard select the ISO from HD
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Zylesea
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    IIRC Efika's firmware is a bit picky about usb sticks to boot from. Also IIRC I had better success with rather older, smaller sticks, for example my old TwinMOS 64MB stick and some 128 MB stick of unknown brand worked for that purpose while not that ancient sticks with 1-8 GB (CnMemory, Intenso) failed on that job.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    XDelusion
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    The Efika only has USB 1.0?!
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Zylesea
    Posts: 2057 from 2003/6/4
    Efika has usb1.1. It's slow but theoretically 100% compatible to usb 2.0.
    having usb1.1 only is one of the major flaws of Efika (two others are the little ram and the slow ide).
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  • »12.04.13 - 20:39
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bash64
    Posts: 958 from 2010/10/28
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    Efika was my first board.
    :-D

    I promptly ran the other way and got a Quicksilver Powermac.

    And now finally the Powerbook G4 laptop which only cost me $200.
    :-D
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    XDelusion
    Posts: 602 from 2010/10/27
    For the note, I only bought this for testing purposes. I wanted to see how low end a machine my Alien Breed Odamex Projekt would run on.

    A G5 is in the cards for sure! :)
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  • »12.04.13 - 21:06
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    XDelusion
    Posts: 602 from 2010/10/27
    EDIT: Resolved


    [ Edited by XDelusion 12.04.2013 - 20:27 ]
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bash64
    Posts: 958 from 2010/10/28
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    No G5 for me unless they support the iMac G5 20".
    Got tired of lugging huge cases to computer meetings a long time ago.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    ausPPC
    Posts: 543 from 2007/8/6
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    Re: slow booting from usb on Efika Yes, Efika usb is only 1 or 1.1 I forget why, but from the firmware prompt the transfer speed is quite a bit less than the theoretical maximum. Transfer speed improves once an OS is loaded. I can't remember if I had improved booting times from hard drives or cd drives connected via usb...

    Re: Support for other G5 systems... If I've got my facts straight, some of those iMacs have onboard (?) pci-e graphics. Does that bus require special support? And the quad G5 - I know it's fitted with an Nvidia graphics card, surely it's not a big deal to replace that with a supported ATI card - or is it? btw I know that the additional cpu cores need to be put to use to make the quad system worth bothering with.

    Anyway, I guess I'm just voicing support for more systems to be made MorphOS compatible.
    PPC assembly ain't so bad... ;)
  • »12.04.13 - 22:07
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12200 from 2003/5/22
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    > some of those iMacs have onboard (?) pci-e graphics. Does that bus require
    > special support?

    Even if it does, screenshots of MorphOS running on iMac G5 with PCIe GPU have been shown years ago:

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=9034&forum=11&start=6

    > the quad G5 - I know it's fitted with an Nvidia graphics card, surely it's not a
    > big deal to replace that with a supported ATI card - or is it?

    Supported (or rather not yet supported) PCIe Radeon cards which come with a Mac PPC ROM or where the needed ROM files for flashing exist are not exactly a dime a dozen. I think the best you can get in this regard is the X1900 (R580 GPU).

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7648&forum=3&start=14
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    SoundSquare
    Posts: 1213 from 2004/12/1
    From: Paris, France
    it's much faster to install morphOS on an Efika using TFTP, it also avoids issues with lousy usb sticks.
  • »12.04.13 - 23:06
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  • Butterfly
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    mt12345
    Posts: 72 from 2011/4/4
    From: Europe
    Since morphos 3.2 came out I thought I may give it a try, before selling the efika.

    Quote:

    My advice:
    Take a screwdriver
    Take out the HD
    Connect it another MorphOS-puter
    Make it RDB-partioned and create some SFS partitions (Efika-OF can read those)
    Place morphos-3.1-efikainstall.img and the full 3.1 ISO onto (well you could just install 3.1 here, but thats not advised)
    Put back HD into Efika
    Start the morphos-3.1-efikainstall.img from HD (muuuuuucccch faster) and when running iWizard select the ISO from HD


    well I couldnt find the screwdriver ;-)
    so I modified the recipe:

    using linux machine:

    download efikainstall.img and morphos.iso
    copy to fat32 usb pendrive
    boot efika from pendrive
    create, format partitions
    copy efikainstall.img and morphos.iso to hd
    shutdown
    boot from hd
    install

    now to boot to morphos I have to type manually:
    boot hd:0 boot.img

    did I miss something?
  • »31.05.13 - 00:32
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    XDelusion
    Posts: 602 from 2010/10/27
    Cocoon: I just created this thread a couple days ago. It will help you to get MorphOS auto booting:

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=9245&forum=11
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  • Butterfly
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    mt12345
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    thanks! will check tomorrow.

    er... who 's cocoon?

    :-D
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    XDelusion
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    Woops, mt12345. Sorry. Didn't scroll up far enough. :)
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    XDelusion
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    Oh ya, and btw, if you follow my link, you'll find where you will have to type out a line like the one below:

    > setenv boot-device /pci/ide/disk@...

    In your case you will probably need to type it out like this:

    setenv boot-device hd:0 boot.img
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  • Butterfly
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    mt12345
    Posts: 72 from 2011/4/4
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    read FAQ before somehow missed autoboot part.
    thanks!

    > setenv auto-boot-timeout 500
    > setenv auto-boot? true
    > setenv boot-device hd:0 boot.img
  • »31.05.13 - 10:38
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    XDelusion
    Posts: 602 from 2010/10/27
    So you got it? Good!

    How come your system knows your hard drive by hd:0 rather than ide:0?
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  • Butterfly
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    mt12345
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    > devalias
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    XDelusion
    Posts: 602 from 2010/10/27
    I really didn't expect to be the one reviving this thread, yet here I am.

    I finally got my Efika to allow me to install MorphOS 3.4. I also went back and re-updated my Firmware just to make sure I took all the steps necessary to resolve the audio popping issues.

    Anyhow I'm installed, but I can't auto boot.

    I have typed:

    > setenv auto-boot-timeout 500
    > setenv auto-boot? true
    > setenv boot-device hd:0 boot.img

    But every time I reboot it says:

    "error: error while trying to load or boot."

    So I have to manually type:

    "boot hd:0 boot.img"

    Any clues? Thanks! :)
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    ausPPC
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    Try another hard drive if you have one available. Also, just for the heck of it, set the timeout to zero - as it is, the Efika takes long enough to output a video signal and become responsive to user input after power-on.
    PPC assembly ain't so bad... ;)
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    setenv boot-device hd:0
    setenv boot-file boot.img
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    XDelusion
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    Bingo, thank you much!
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    setenv boot-file boot rd rds 32768
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