Ethernet is not working, Mac Mini and MorphOS 3.2
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    From: Gütersloh
    ethernet is not working

    MorphOS 3.2
    Mac Mini G4 1,42Ghz

    The Mac Mini is working good with OSX and a Ubuntu Live CD, the Internet access is there ...

    The DHCP Mode is not working and the manual mode is ok when I write in a Shell ifconfig
    the Interface is up and running ...

    But in the resolv.conf is no entry of my Router/Gateway/Nameserver 192.168.2.1

    when I edit the resolv.conf there is no change ...

    I have no Internet access !?!



    What to do ... ?

    [ Editiert durch frank 01.07.2013 - 18:25 ]
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    iirc, there was some issue with this solved by reseting network after macosx/linux run... can it be this also?

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  • »02.07.13 - 05:40
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  • Caterpillar
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    From: Gütersloh
    Hello, what you mean by reseting the Network ?

    I have reseting the PRAM on the Mac Mini ...

    ... that did not Help!


    What I've done is change the Router/DNS/Gateway Box from 192.168.2.1 to 192.168.1.1
    the presetting unter MorphOS 3.2 is 192.168.1.1 for the Router ...

    DHCP is not Working at all, is this a bug unter MorphOS ?

    When I enter a manual IP the Ethernet Interface is up and running and I can ping my Host IP 192.168.1.10
    but nothing else ...


    Does anyone have any advice ...
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    > DHCP is not Working at all, is this a bug unter MorphOS ?

    No, DHCP is working fine for me and others.
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    frank,
    Quote:

    ethernet is not working


    Try to check the netstat utility in the tools folder. It is quiet a good program, gives you a lot of info on your network.
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    From: Gütersloh
    The Tool NetStat give me this Info´s …

    … short Info


    Interfaces

    Name IP Address Netmask Broadcast MTU MAC Address
    eth0 192.168.1.10 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.255 1500 00:0D:96:72:F8:D0
    lo0 127.0.0.1 255.0.0.0

    Routes

    Gateway Interface
    default 192.168.1.1 eth0
    localhost 127.0.0.1 lo0
    192.168.1.0 192.168.1.10 eth0
    192.168.1.1 192.168.1.10 eth0

    -------
    my Network Info´s

    Mac Mini IP 192.168.1.10
    Router/DNS Server 192.168.1.1
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Ok, can you config the router under MOS? (I mean under OWB)
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    @ frank

    for me, if I don't check in "Host and DNS" the "Domain Name Server" checkbox and there needs to be the same ip entered as in "Network Interfaces" "Gateway", the network is up but I can't connect to the internet.

    E. g. in Gateway I have 192.168.1.1 and in Domaine Name Server Primary I have also 192.168.1.1

    This works for me.

    Regards

    Christoph
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    From: Gütersloh
    Quote:

    Derringer schrieb:
    Ok, can you config the router under MOS? (I mean under OWB)


    No, I can not ping the Router 192.168.1.1 or anything else ...

    From Outside I can not ping the Mac Mini 192.168.1.10 ...


    I suspect that the Ethernet Port in the Mac Mini is not addressed !?!
  • »03.07.13 - 07:33
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    ... maybe I have a Mac Mini with a different network chip in it ?

    [ Editiert durch frank 03.07.2013 - 10:07 ]
  • »03.07.13 - 08:07
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    From: Gütersloh
    ... the command "showinterface eth0"

    Device: DEVS:Networks/sungem_eth.device
    Unit: 0
    DoOnline: TRUE
    IPAddr: 192.168.1.10
    Netmask: 255.255.255.0
    Gateway: 192.168.1.1
    HWAddress: 0:D:93:76:F8:D0
    MTU: 1500


    What surprises me is that the MAC address should look like this ... 00:0D:93:76:F8:D0
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    Quote:

    frank wrote:
    HWAddress: 0:D:93:76:F8:D0
    MTU: 1500

    What surprises me is that the MAC address should look like this ... 00:0D:93:76:F8:D0


    It's OK that it doesn't show first zeros, but what surprises me is why that command shows HWAddress and MTU at all. Have you checked them in expert preferences? Maybe overriding default values doesn't work on your case... or maybe in any case? Try unchecking everything in Expert section in network prefs.

    Because with default values that ShowInterface command shouldn't show those last two lines at all.

    And I don't believe it's any chipset compatibility issue, because all Mac minis should be supported and I haven't heard any other case that network wouldn't work at all.

    [ Edited by jPV 03.07.2013 - 14:31 ]
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    jPV,
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    And I don't believe it's any chipset compatibility issue, because all Mac minis should be supported and I haven't heard any other case that network wouldn't work at all.



    I think indeed that it can not happen, but it happen !?!

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=8877&forum=11
  • »03.07.13 - 12:03
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    Quote:

    jPV schrieb:
    Quote:

    frank wrote:
    HWAddress: 0:D:93:76:F8:D0
    MTU: 1500

    What surprises me is that the MAC address should look like this ... 00:0D:93:76:F8:D0


    It's OK that it doesn't show first zeros, but what surprises me is why that command shows HWAddress and MTU at all. Have you checked them in expert preferences? Maybe overriding default values doesn't work on your case... or maybe in any case? Try unchecking everything in Expert section in network prefs.

    Because with default values that ShowInterface command shouldn't show those last two lines at all.

    [ Edited by jPV 03.07.2013 - 14:31 ]


    I have unchecking the Expert Section in the network prefs, but it not help ...
  • »03.07.13 - 13:05
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    I have testing the MorphOS 2.7 Version and it works ...

    Internet Access with a manual IP ...


    What is wrong with the 3.2 Version of MorphOS and the Mac Mini ?



    How and Where can I report errors and bug´s ...
  • »03.07.13 - 13:09
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    MorphOS 3.1 is not working too ...
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    frank,
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    What I've done is change the Router/DNS/Gateway Box from 192.168.2.1 to 192.168.1.1


    Set back to the router original address space (192.168.2.1) and try it. Maybe the problem is somewhere in the dns resolving.
    If you have another router,try it with that. Also check the hdd and the ram, if everything is ok with them.

    If none above helps, report it.

    [ Edited by Derringer 04.07.2013 - 09:39 ]
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  • »04.07.13 - 07:37
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    I think it is not the Router IP Address ...

    I try it with MorphOS 3.2 ten times and more, but without success ...

    ... everything that ran was ping on the Host IP and ping other Address or
    ping from Outside went wrong !

    The HDD and the RAM are fine because OSX and Ubuntu 12 and MorphOS 2.7 runs fine ...



    I would like to buy a License from MorphOS but not for a old 2.7 version !

    [ Editiert durch frank 04.07.2013 - 10:13 ]
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    frank wrote:
    I would like to buy a License from MorphOS but not for a old 2.7 version !



    Yeah, too bad 3.x causes this much problems.. but anyway, if you buy it for 2.7, same keyfile works with 3.x too when you get those problems solved.

    Some wild guesses which you could try next...

    When you have working 2.7 setup and network works, try to update that to 3.2 (boot from 3.2 CD and select update option instead of clean install). Maybe it would preserve working settings?

    If it doesn't work, try to copy SYS:MorphOS/Devs/Networks/sungem_eth.device from 2.7 CD to 3.2 installation. Does that have any effect?

    Compare working 2.7 setting files to 3.2 equivalents. envarc:sys/interfaces and envarc:sys/netconfig for example...
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    Quote:

    jPV schrieb:

    When you have working 2.7 setup and network works, try to update that to 3.2 (boot from 3.2 CD and select update option instead of clean install). Maybe it would preserve working settings?




    ... it doesn't work !

    Quote:

    jPV schrieb:

    If it doesn't work, try to copy SYS:MorphOS/Devs/Networks/sungem_eth.device from 2.7 CD to 3.2 installation. Does that have any effect?





    ... you're my HERO, copy the 2.7 Driver to the 3.2 Update Installation works fine !
  • »04.07.13 - 14:13
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    I make a Bug report ...


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