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    xyphoid
    Posts: 870 from 2008/7/11
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    is it possible to run super street fighter 2 turbo on morphos? or even the fmv game tomcat?
    on ssft2 I clicked on the game.exe and it popped the "game will reset sys" i selected ok, and it got to firmware, and tried to access the cd which it was burned to, but stayed accessing as an error came up ssf2t unknown boot sequence. ( tried also boot cd game.exe)

    [ Edited by xyphoid on 2009/2/15 0:34 ]
  • »15.02.09 - 04:07
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    Since you are refering to a game.exe that actually starts under MorphOS can we assume you are talking about the CD32 version? No? Ok, then I have no idea what you're talking about, if it was the CD32 version it obviously wouldn't run without UAE (which is not a part of open firmware FYI).

    Thanks.
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    xyphoid
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    not talking about a cd32 game! dont think ssf2t ver. was ever released for cd32, it came on 12 disks for aga machines. thanks anyway, if you have no idea :-?


    posted with OWB

    [ Edited by xyphoid on 2009/2/15 2:04 ]
  • »15.02.09 - 06:04
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    Golem
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    Right, I still have no idea which game you're talking about and why you think it should run on MorphOS (or Open Firmware for that matter). Please do not give any more info.

    Thanks.
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    Simon
    Posts: 809 from 2008/7/6
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    maybe MorphOS on a classic ?
    Proud member of the Belgian Amiga Club since 2003

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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > dont think ssf2t ver. was ever released for cd32

    It was: http://hol.abime.net/2215

    But I also fail to see the MorphOS connection here.
  • »15.02.09 - 07:11
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    Ok xyphoid, explain yourself please, because I have no idea what you are asking here? Maybe you're just trolling? In which case... well... dunno... try harder?
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    serge
    Posts: 725 from 2003/2/20
    Hi xyphoid,,
    It seems your are trying to run a classic version. Classic games needing classic hardware like AGA or OCS/ECS games need to be run on classic hardware and under AmigaOS3.9 or past versions.

    YOU CANT RUN ON NEW AMIAGAS SYSTEMS olg games nativly, so, NON HARDWARE dependant games on AmigaOS4 nor Morphos.

    So to play SSF2T you need to do emulation.
    You have a lot of choices to play this games on Morphos.

    You can play the original arcade version with Mame emulator. This is realy fast and funny.
    You can play the Nintendo version with SNES9x emulator. This is realy fast and funny.
    You can play Genesis SSF2 versions With Amigenerator or Genesisplus from Emerald_imaging
    You can play the all Amiga versions with E-UAE emulator. This last is slow and not realy interesting.

    THE BEST EMULATORS for morphos ARE ON THIS SITE.

    If you have a classic Amiga, and want to run old games on your computer, so install the old AmigaOS3.x Dont use NEW systems like amigaOS4 or Morphos, they were not designed to do it.

    If you are a very high skilled on Amiga computers, maybe it's possbile to create a RAD from Morphos, then reboot your classicAmiga and run old games booting from this RAD disk. This is not easy to do if you are not a very good amiga user.
    I think if you ask here about this question, this is because you dont know use RAD, so forget it and boot from AmigaOS3.x



    [ Edited by serge on 2009/2/15 14:46 ]
  • »15.02.09 - 12:00
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    xyphoid
    Posts: 870 from 2008/7/11
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    Thanks Serge, you seem to know what
    i was getting at......

    the point is I wasn't sure if it was dependent on the chip set since some older amiga games do run on morph.
    I was wondering from a programming standpoint if there was a hack to start it since it reboots the system to the game directory. assuming looking for the startup, (which could could be changed) I like the rad idea, but don't see how mounting rad would get it going. If you have more details and time please do share. the other versions are actually better, but I feel like being annoyed...if I can tolerate golem this is a cake 8-)
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    First. Use UAE or some other emulator, very few amiga games (none really) will run without it on MorphOS.

    You give practically no details of what you are attempting to do, mention a cd which led me to believe it might be a CD32 version, you try to run it from OF before MorphOS is even loaded?

    You're just not making it easy to guess what you're doing.


    Thanks.
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    serge
    Posts: 725 from 2003/2/20
    Ok, so you have a classic Amiga.

    my answer about this situation was:

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    If you have a classic Amiga, and want to run old games on your computer, so install the old AmigaOS3.x Dont use NEW systems like amigaOS4 or Morphos, they were not designed to do it.

    If you are a very high skilled on Amiga computers, maybe it's possbile to create a RAD from Morphos, then reboot your classicAmiga and run old games booting from this RAD disk. This is not easy to do if you are not a very good amiga user.
    I think if you ask here about this question, this is because you dont know use RAD, so forget it and boot from AmigaOS3.x

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    Sorry but I'm not so skilled to help you creating RAD and using it to launch classic games from morphos and rebooting on a second part.
    I created a RAD disk on my first steps with my Amiga500 on 1989. I used the documentation to do it and never tryed to use it since this time.

    I heard people many times between 2000 and 2003 talking about this way to run HW dependent stuff, but I never did it myself.

    The main idea is to create a script with a nice SSF2T icon. This script must create a rad disk.
    Then you have to creat a startup-sequence on it like if you boot from a normal df0: floppy.
    This startup-sequence must make all the needed assigns to the good folders containing ssf2t game.
    And on the last time, the startup-sequence will end by running the game.
    This startup-sequence should be created and saved on the same folder containing the script. This way, for hich time you run the script, you have just to copy the startup-sequence to the RAD drive.

    Dont forget to do a reset on the end of the script.

    This is the main idea, but it's not inpossible i did a mistake cause I never did it myself

    Have a nice try and good luke ;-)

    Golem was write about the difficulty to understand what you asked to us.
    Next time, please, give us more details about your configuration, your machine, your system version, the game or application version...
    This informations help us to help you better ;-)

    [ Edited by serge on 2009/2/15 22:46 ]
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    xyphoid
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    thanks!! looks like a rad is a bit testing of my expertise. I'd try e-uae, but don't know how to use that program, I'm aware also that it may be slow particularly on efika. I d/l from the site, then unarchive. the folder has files, and the euae icon, clicked it? then what?
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    Posts: 725 from 2003/2/20
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    xyphoid wrote:
    thanks!! looks like a rad is a bit testing of my expertise. I'd try e-uae, but don't know how to use that program, I'm aware also that it may be slow particularly on efika. I d/l from the site, then unarchive. the folder has files, and the euae icon, clicked it? then what?


    WHAT !!!
    You are trying to do it on EFIKA? So you cant use the rad drive to do it.
    It's only a working way if you have a Classic Amiga.
    By Amiga classic you must understand a computer made by Commodore.

    AmigaOne,Samantha 440, Pegasos1 & 2 and Efika are not classic Amigas, so you cant run on them any game or application needing chipsets. on this computers, you need to use emulators.

    Sorry, but you are realy very confused on your situation.

    Can you please give us the name or your computer, your operating system and the version of the game you want to run. What is the configuration described on the boxe of your game?

    [ Edited by serge on 2009/2/16 17:50 ]
  • »16.02.09 - 15:46
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    xyphoid
    Posts: 870 from 2008/7/11
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    again... I know how to use aos I said I was trying to boot this if possible on MorphOs, The game is already installed on my 1200 and works fine. I'm not confused, just following what you stated. being a similar os, I thought you were referring to mounting a rad on morph, hence the topic on morph?
    Anyway, i got it to restart off a cd which it was copied to, on efika and it was attempting to access (from reboot) the drive where the game is (looking for startup-sequence). again I was just playing around, and thought if it could get pass this this, could it actually boot? I do believe it creates its own rad: thus part of the issue here?

    Only people who are familiar with super street fighter 2 turbo would get its strange booting from hard drive. So again I had it copied to a cd, and messing with it on Morphos (efika) where it rest to OF. and tried to access the drive it was located in, but couldn't mount, and later kick back an error on unfamiliar start sequence...

    Just something to go Huumm about.

    as for e-uae, I assume it will be slow, but I still haven't tried it because
    I'm not good at morph commands as yet.
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    Posts: 268 from 2003/4/20
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    xyphoid wrote:
    again... I know how to use aos I said I was trying to boot this if possible on MorphOs, The game is already installed on my 1200 and works fine. I'm not confused, just following what you stated. being a similar os, I thought you were referring to mounting a rad on morph, hence the topic on morph?
    Anyway, i got it to restart off a cd which it was copied to, on efika and it was attempting to access (from reboot) the drive where the game is (looking for startup-sequence). again I was just playing around, and thought if it could get pass this this, could it actually boot? I do believe it creates its own rad: thus part of the issue here?

    Only people who are familiar with super street fighter 2 turbo would get its strange booting from hard drive. So again I had it copied to a cd, and messing with it on Morphos (efika) where it rest to OF. and tried to access the drive it was located in, but couldn't mount, and later kick back an error on unfamiliar start sequence...

    Just something to go Huumm about.

    as for e-uae, I assume it will be slow, but I still haven't tried it because
    I'm not good at morph commands as yet.




    If you are talking about this game then there is nothing to go Huumm about. It will never run on your Efika without an emulator.

    Just keep in mind that MorphOS and OS4 are not able to run software which make use of the custom chips of the Amiga. Your only option is UAE, very slow on an Efika, maybe without sound.

    Try MAME to play the original arcade version or a SNES / Genesis / TurboGFX emulator (each of these StreetFighter versions are waaaaay better than any Amiga version).

    [ Edited by Toto on 2009/2/16 23:59 ]
  • »16.02.09 - 21:56
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    thanks all, emulation is too slow on efika..
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    xyphoid wrote:
    thanks all, emulation is too slow on efika..


    Even the console emulators from Emerald Games?
    They ran pretty good on my Pegasos II and didn't use much CPU time.
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    > i got it to restart off a cd which it was copied to, on efika and it was attempting to access
    > (from reboot) the drive where the game is (looking for startup-sequence).

    How do you know what it was looking for? I highly doubt OpenFirmware is able to look for anything like startup-sequence.
  • »17.02.09 - 00:24
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    xyphoid
    Posts: 870 from 2008/7/11
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > i got it to restart off a cd which it was copied to, on efika and it was attempting to access
    > (from reboot) the drive where the game is (looking for startup-sequence).

    How do you know what it was looking for? I highly doubt OpenFirmware is able to look for anything like startup-sequence.


    try it for yourself then...it cd(change dir) to where the game is from the previous restart command, yes it is looking for something connected to the start of the game. On amiga it creates a rad to run and save chipram after boot :-?

    @ toto the sega emulation (nice work btw) was slow on efika...efika just hasn't enough umph for much
  • »17.02.09 - 02:44
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