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Many developers take this into account nowadays and offer a doubled mode to get at least 640x480 resolution, with an option or automatically.

But as I already told, MorphOS port of sqrxz opens into 640x480 by default, and Smokin' Guns opens to 800x600 by default. So you shouldn't need 320x mode for them.

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Yes I need it because as I said,they get "Out Of Range"

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It's opening a screenmode your monitor can't display. So either it is 320x240 and your monitor can't go down that low (which is common), or you have a screenmode in your list that isn't compatible with your monitor. Usually it's the frequency, as it's an old holdover from CRT.

Go through your screenmodes and delete any that don't display properly. Then have another go.

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Well, have you tried if "8bit 640x480", "15/16bit 640x480", and "24bit 640x480" do show when you try to test them in "MorphOS Preferences -> Monitors". And same for "8bit 800x600", "15/16bit 800x600", and "24bit 800x600". Just try these in MorphOS prefs if they say "Out Of Range" or not.

If they say "Out Of Range" check what your monitor specifications tell, and adjust screenmodes accorgingly.

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I tried various 320x240,640x480&800x600 in 8 and 24 Bit depths and it says "No Signal" and "Out Of Range".

What can I do now? Is my Amiga 1200's monitor that is on AmigaKit for years (That's another case or issue) suitable for 320x240 Morphos 3.18 resolutions?



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I tried various 320x240,640x480&800x600 in 8 and 24 Bit depths and it says "No Signal" and "Out Of Range".

What can I do now? Is my Amiga 1200's monitor that is on AMigaKit for years (That's another case or issue) suitable for 320x240 Morphos 3.18 resolutions?

Forget the 320x240 resolution for now (sorry that I mentioned in the first place), but try to get at least 800x600 to work with your monitor.

You could try to change your 800x600 mode to another preset by editing the mode and selecting different 800x600 entries from the list on the Edit Mode window. VESA modes are more likely to work, and 800x600 @ 60Hz would be the first I'd try.

If none of the preset modes do work, then refer your monitor specifications (google your monitor manufacturer + model + "specs") that which resolutions in which frequencies it should work, and adjust the sliders accordingly until you get it to work.

Or try with that another monitor if you like.

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OK I see that is very complicated to me because I don't know my monitor model.Is an HKC but don't know more..

I will try to contact Amedia France to ask about my monitor model specs

But try the standard VESA modes first, it's good chances that they do work.

BTW. have you connected the monitor with a VGA cable or DVI cable? On DVI the modes should usually match the monitor specs, because it's getting them via DDC, but on VGA it doesn't get them autoconfigured.

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OK I see

My HKC monitor is attached with a HDMI black cable.

What are the standard VESA modes? How can I configure them
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I am dying to play Genesis Plus and MAME on my Morphos 3.18 registered

All the best for all of you too.

> What are the standard VESA modes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions#Modes_defined_by_VESA

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Go to edit the modes as I instructed you earlier in this thread. On the predefined modes list you can see entries that end to the "VESA" word. Select and test those if some of them would work.

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Sorry but I don't see any with that VESA word

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So you don't have anything like this in the list?
Screenshot

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Yes I have,

What can I do now?

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For example, starting from 800x600 modes:

1) Select 24Bit 800x600 from the main window (just like on the screenshot on the left side)

2) Click the Edit button to get the Edit Mode window (right side on the screenshot)

3) Click the Test button. If you get a visible screen with the test picture as the background and a smaller window over it, click the Cancel button on both Edit Mode windows and return to the step 1) and repeat for the 8Bit 800x600 and 15/16Bit 800x600 modes. A working test picture screen indicates that the mode is OK and it should work with other software too.

4) If the Test fails and you get the "Out of Range" message from the monitor with no visible image. Try to press the Esc if it'd close the test screen, and if not, reboot the machine (IIRC the Esc used to quit the test, but I'm not sure anymore)

5) After a failed test, open the Edit Mode for the same failing mode again, and click the "800x600 (60Hz, 37.9kHz) VESA" entry from the predefined modes list. The values on the lower part of the window should change accordingly.

6) Click the Test button again. If the test still fails, repeat from 4) and select another 800x600 entry (with different Hz), you can test all predefined modes, but the ones ending to VESA are more likely to work.

7) If you find working settings for mode(s) that didn't work previously, Click OK on the Edit Mode window and Save in the Monitors prefs. Altered modes will work after a reboot then.

8) Repeat from 1) for all other modes/resolutions you want to check. For example, 640x480 is also a common mode for games.

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Thanks JVP!!!

But I tried various screenmodes with VESA and no luck,it even doen't allow me to exit from the "Out Of Range" black screen.

Can I do something now?

I am dying to play MAME and Genesis Plus too,including too swrxz and Smokin'Guns.

And I apreciatte a lot the mini-guide you gave me!!!

Very good work!!

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Try to find your monitor model, it usually reads somewhere back of the monitor or you can see it in on-screen menus. Then we can google what modes it is supposed to support.

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Maybe I'll add the guide to the MorphOS Library :)

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OK.: My monitor as said on Prefs/Monitors HKC-0000

Hope this helps

Anymore ideas?

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Can you help me? JPV or anymore Morphos people?

I want to play MAME and others too.

VESA modes doesn't work for now

What can I do?

Thanks in advance

hi there ...

I´m in nearly the same situation, my Apple Cinema Display only works on it´s native resolution and I cannot use most of the programs fullscreen ...

But for Smoking Guns can also run in a window, just open the DEFAULT.CFG and find this part :

seta r_mode "4"
seta r_fullscreen "1"
seta r_customwidth "1600"
seta r_customheight "1080"

to :

seta r_mode "-1"
seta r_fullscreen "0"
seta r_customwidth "640" (or whatever you want the window size to be)
seta r_customheight "480" (see above)

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I'm afraid that's not enough information to identify the monitor...

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OK many thanks SkulleateR!!

I will try when I have time.

But I want to run my things in Fullscreen mode not on a window,that's not a bad solution anyway,but not the SOLUTION.

Let's hope if I can see Smokin' Guns on an Ambient window.

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OK

But...

What kind of information do we need?

Cheers to all and you JPV specially for being loyal to this thread till now.

Thanks to you too

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No problem but...I tried to open the Smokin'Guns DEFAULT.CFG file with More and Multiview and Hex too but no luck.No luck in order to edit,but I saw all the parameters

How can I open and edit this game's configuration and later copy/paste from Wayfarer to the file?