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  • Just looking around
    RadioMan
    Posts: 1 from 2003/11/20
    Hi everybody,
    i just discover the MorhOS and Pegasos combo. Before i buy one, i have a few technical questions...Can somebody help me???

    Can i run a Video Toaster card for Amiga on the MorphOS and Pegasos board ( use to work in Amiga 2000,3000 and 4000 ) ?

    If i can run it, wil it a lot be faster or it will be as fast as an Amiga 4000?

    If i can run the Video Toaster for Amiga, can i run it's complement, the FLYER !!!

    Can ir un some old Amiga games like Pac-Man etc...

    Can i burn DVD's on Morph OS..

    Can i run my favorite Mac, and PC apps with the help of emulators. Like Sound Forge etc...

    Is there some professional Video Capture cards available ? Do you know some people doing video editing on MorphOS

    Will i be more happy with that platform?

    Don't tell me all of that is available..I am gonna faint!!


    Thanks a lot for replying and remember that the Video Toaster was one of the main reason people will buy the Amiga in the early 90's...If it can support the old Toaster card..there will be a lot of small TV studio popping everywhere!!!!!! There is A LOT of small editing studio that can then buy an old Toaster card ( 200$ ) buy a complete MorphOS computer and will de editing in no time...Real Time!!!

    I'LL be the one who's gonna help you with that task!!

    Best regards

    Éric Nolin
    Digital Video
     :-D
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    td741
    Posts: 224 from 2003/4/2
    > Can i run a Video Toaster card for Amiga on the MorphOS
    > and Pegasos board ( use to work in Amiga 2000,3000 and
    > 4000 ) ?

    Nope. You won't be able to run the Amiga versions of the Video Toasters on a Pegasos (or an Amiga One) as they lack the Amiga Video Slot (and the Amiga's Graphic Chipset).

    It *might* be possible to run the Video Toaster 2, but as far as I know, no one is planning on supporting it at the moment.

    It *might* also be possible to use the Video Toaster software using MorphOS on an PPC based Classic Amiga. (In which case, it might be a little faster) Although that might be doubtful as I remember reading somewhere that the Amiga Toaster Software doesn't even like OS3.9 so it might be tooo finicky.

    But I'm not an expert.  ;-)

    > If i can run the Video Toaster for Amiga, can i run it's
    > complement, the FLYER !!

    Sorry, no can do here again. There are no Zorro or Amiga Video slots in the Pegasos or Amiga One. They both have PCI and AGP slots. It might be possible to use other types of video-capture cards although there have been issues with the current Pegasos-1 motherboards. (Don't know about AmigaOne.) I'm hoping to be able to slap in my el-cheapo TV card and do some video-capturing once I have my Peg-2 upgrade.

    > Can ir un some old Amiga games like Pac-Man etc...

    MorphOS on a Pegasos can run pretty much anything that doesn't bang the hardware, *AND* uses AHI for sound (if it uses sound). A few games also have patches made that will make the game more system friendly and runnable on a Pegasos + MorphOS (ie: Alien Breed 3D-II: The Killing Grounds works when you use the "RTG" patch.)

    For any of the hardware banging games, or games that use PAULA for sound you need to use UAE. There is a version of UAE for MOS that does a decent job, and it now has joystick support. It doesn't work with every game yet, but a G3-600 can handle roughtly the A500 speed.

    > Can i burn DVD's on Morph OS..

    Some software is in the works, but it will not be included with MorphOS. I believe there will be a MOS native version of "Burn It!" that will support DVD burning. The superbundle will include a version of "Burn It!" with CD writting capabilities, but not DVD burning capabilities. I don't know if there will be an upgrade offer available.

    Apart from that, I think someone released some DVD burning command-line tools for the Amiga that can run on MOS? Not 100% certain. :)

    > Can i run my favorite Mac, and PC apps with the help of
    > emulators. Like Sound Forge etc...

    There aren't many PC emulators out now. There is a native version of BOCHS, but it's not very fast. It doesn't have JIT emulation, so on a G3-600 you get the speed of a 17 mhz Pentium (clocked by a game I attempted to run). BOCHS also doesn't have sound support at the moment. :P

    There is also a version of DOSBox which is faster, and emulates a DOS based PC. It's mostly made to be used for running old DOS games.

    Sadly, we are missing MAC emulation in MorphOS. However, you can run MacOnLinux if you install Linux on your Pegasos.

    > Is there some professional Video Capture cards available ?
    > Do you know some people doing video editing on MorphOS

    Well, I'd like to do some, so I'm hoping that once I can get my TV-Card working, I can use MotionStudio and get cracking. However, this is mostly for personal use. At the moment, I won't be able to tell you if the above will meet your needs.

    Will you be happy with this new system? Well, I can't let you know. All I can tell you is that it essentially does all I need it to do (save for the bit about video-capturing which I hope the Peg2 will remedy). It is the fastest Amiga-like system I've ever ran.

    However, if your goal is to use a Video-Toaster, then you'll be better off sticking with a classic Amiga.  :-(
    Steph
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    Caterpillar
    zeXar
    Posts: 30 from 2003/7/22
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    RadioMan visit DiscreetFX for more info about video toaster on amiga/pegasos.
    Pegasos II G3/600MHz
    AMIGA 4000 060/50Mhz 604e/233MHz
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    td741
    Posts: 224 from 2003/4/2
    Ah... well looky here:
    "9. Ami[2]™: Ami [2] is a hardware/software solution that allows you to add a Video Toaster [2] card inside of your Mediator PCI based Amiga 4000 or 4000T computer system. It does not allow you to use the Video Toaster [2]'s software suite which is Windows 2000/XP only but it does allow you to use the Audio, Component in/out and uncompressed video
    recording/playback features of VT[2]. We are also working on
    implementing SX-8 & firewire compatibility. Amiga One and Pegasos will also be supported."

    from: http://www.discreetfx.com/Products.html

    Note: this isn't about the Amiga Video Toaster, but the Video Toaster [2] which is a PCI card.
    Steph
  • »21.11.03 - 13:41
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