Pegasos G4 CPU card flaming power? :-(
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    Van_M
    Posts: 72 from 2003/6/25
    Well I guess the only way to find out wether it was the psu's fault or not, is to put it on an old motherboard (say a pentium 1 motherboard) and see what happens. Of course it shouldn't be anything more expensive than 20-30 euros off-Ebay, so that if something else gets burned it won't be a terrible loss of money.
  • »06.05.04 - 02:12
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 261 from 2003/3/13
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    Hi there again..

    Just called my Amiga dealer, i explained the
    situation, he told me it has happened before
    with other users.

    I only have to bring the cpu card and he will send
    it away for repairs. can take several weeks.

    I told him i was thinking my psu could be broke,
    he didn't had a anwser to that, so i decided to
    buy a new one when i receive my cpu card back
    again, just to be safe.

    For now it's waiting..
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    Zylesea
    Posts: 2095 from 2003/6/4
    Probably it would be wise to integrate fuses to the PSU outputs. Or meters to check the voltage during operation. Something like that...

    /me shuddering when thinking of the fact that my poor Peggy runs on a noname cheapo PSU
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  • »06.05.04 - 11:39
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    greenboy
    Posts: 41 from 2003/2/13
    Make sure you have - at the least - a very high quality surge protector, and if you can afford it, either a line conditioner (this will keep voltage within a couple percent of spec no matter how much it fluctuates in an area) or a UPS (the battery also isolates the stuff plugged into it from unruly local voltages).

    Most electronic failures can be attributed to bad line voltage conditions. If not destroying components outright, they can through attrition cost you money. And any power supply is the first stop. Lots of people think their voltage is well enough regulated in their neighborhood and their power grids superior. Maybe when it comes to light bulbs. But not so when it comes to this stuff. Someone COULD turn on all their pizza ovens down the street and that can possibly interact, depending on the local wiring.

    And if you have too much demand on a power conditioner or surge protector, this too can cause local fluctuations on the supplied side. A heavy-draw laser printer and an inefficient monitor and sound system plugged into the same suppressor as your computer could be too much, especially if all are switched on at the same moment.

    I learned much of this from a specialist, and the circumstances leading to his involvement really cost ; }
         
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    Posts: 261 from 2003/3/13
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    Tnx for all the tips ppl.

    I will make sure i buy a very very good
    quality PSU as soon as i get my G4 back.
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    peg4a
    Posts: 26 from 2003/4/15
    Hi Felix !

    I had just news about mine, it has been repaired and posted... so know I just have to wait... ;)
    I hope you will have soon to !

    About the PSU I am not sure it is that (I had a pegasos 1 for months before and no problem) but I will change mine to be safe...

    Perhaps the G4 pegasos II cpu card is just more "brittle" ?

    Peg4a  :-D
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    Sphinx_Ra
    Posts: 276 from 2003/3/14
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    What was the slogan back then again....

    Light My Fire :lol:

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  • »07.05.04 - 23:28
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Sphinx_Ra wrote:
    What was the slogan back then again....

    Light My Fire :lol:

    Felix is a friend of mine so don't
    take this hard :-)



    Very funny ;-)
    You just wait until your G4 dies! :-)
  • »08.05.04 - 12:42
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    peg4a wrote:
    Hi Felix !

    I had just news about mine, it has been repaired and posted... so know I just have to wait... ;)
    I hope you will have soon to !

    About the PSU I am not sure it is that (I had a pegasos 1 for months before and no problem) but I will change mine to be safe...

    Perhaps the G4 pegasos II cpu card is just more "brittle" ?

    Peg4a  :-D


    Good to hear !!
    Hope they will fix my card fast :-)
  • »08.05.04 - 12:44
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    ChatDEau
    Posts: 248 from 2003/4/4
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    @greenboy & others

    Does a UPS include a line conditioner automatically (or vice-versa) or it really depends on the quality/model you purchase?

    Would you have any suggestions of such products with good quality/price value?

    I just moved in an older area of Montreal and, even though the electricity lines are really efficient here, I would prefer to get better protection against possible high electical fluctuations.

    Thanks :)
    Fred
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    greenboy
    Posts: 41 from 2003/2/13
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    ChatDEau : Does a UPS include a line conditioner automatically (or vice-versa) or it really depends on the quality/model you purchase?

    Hoi ChatDEau,

    Any model I've ever looked at has surge/spike suppression, and performs line conditioning (if I recall correctly) by virtue of buffering the incoming current via the battery if not actually incorporating a auto-tap transformer.

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    Would you have any suggestions of such products with good quality/price value?

    I usually end up with what's at Costco - which is usually Tripplite, which actually is pretty good stuff and competitively priced with the other mainstays in power. But I don't know what your market would be like there, what the affordable options might be or the vendors you'd prefer.

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    I just moved in an older area of Montreal and, even though the electricity lines are really efficient here, I would prefer to get better protection against possible high electical fluctuations.

    Yeah, paying for protection is better than paying for repairs and replacement : }
         
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  • »09.05.04 - 11:14
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