What's goining on at the SNDF? Report on Genesi website!
  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Zylesea
    Posts: 2095 from 2003/6/4
    SNDF is going on for a while now, so I guess everyone would like to hear some report from there.
    Did our mates over there convince the whole IT-world to go for the Peg & MOS?
    Will HP drop x86 immedeately to go for PegPower only? Is Bill Gates selling his MS shares right now to purchase some Freecale shares to ensure his pension?
    Was the support for Targhan not necessary because Metrowerks suddenly showed up with some MOS native Codewarrior?
    Is tomorrow really Friday?
    There are loads of questions...

    C'mon give some report or feel free to speculate what's going on.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bbrv
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    Things at SNDF have gone VERY well. We will post details by the end of the week.

    R&B  :-)
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  • Leo
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    Can we expect photos and/or videos of the show as well ?

    Leo.
    Nothing hurts a project more than developers not taking the time to let their community know what is going on.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    AyoS
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    by bbrv on 2004/4/29 8:21:35

    Things at SNDF have gone VERY well. We will post details by the end of the week.

    R&B


    Good To Hear!!! :-D

    Katos1
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Donar
    Posts: 142 from 2003/12/27
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    It's old news but probably not everyone knows:
    Motorolas chip making branch Freescale announced new processor lines eg. e600 as a new G4 and e700 a 32/64 Bit processor. Unfortunately no timescale was given.
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  • Targhan
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    Donar and All,

    The people of Freescale/Motorola have been very gracious, and I believe we will get some more information from them to be available here in the near future. Cross your fingers, and maybe we will have some good stuff for everyone ;-)
    :idea:Targhan

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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    marcik
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    Cross your fingers, and maybe we will have some good stuff for everyone

    What about free Peg3 with double G5 for everyone? :)
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  • Leo
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    What about free Peg3 with double G5 for everyone? :)


    Motorola/Freescale have nothing to do with the G5...

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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Donar
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    Quote:


    Leo wrote:
    Quote:

    What about free Peg3 with double G5 for everyone? :)


    Motorola/Freescale have nothing to do with the G5...

    Leo.


    So you say we are all getting free Pegasos III
    Dual Processor machines that are based on a
    Motorola e700 Dual Core!
    Thats four processing cores in one machine,
    what a Beast! Maybe each core has a virtual
    processor in it like Hyperthreading.
    So 8 Processors in a Box.

    Anybody here who likes to programm
    it???  :-D

    But hey we could start 8 instances of DNetC
    on it. And it will never be cold in your home
    during Winter.

    Ok just kidding but i couldn't resist.
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    DethKnight
    Posts: 139 from 2003/6/24
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    Motorola/Freescale have nothing to do with the G5...


    and according to this snippet;

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    Freescale Semiconductor also disclosed today at SNDF its plans to develop the next-generation 32/64-bit e700 PowerPC core and corresponding e700 platform. Processor products engineered around Freescale’s forthcoming e700 SoC platform are planned to be capable of running both 32-bit and 64-bit software and scaling to 3 GHz and beyond in next-generation process technologies.


    Im willing to bet 970fx appears in consumer obtainable devices far sooner....just a guess
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bbrv
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    A report on SNDF will be linked to the Press Release for 30 April found HERE.  :-D

    R&B
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Thats wonderful news!!! Can you give us a little more on the amount of Pegosos ][ that have been produced, delivered, and ordered?

    Congrats Genesi and Crew!!!! Here's to a long future.

    :pint: :bloons:
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    Zylesea
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    Freescale did an order, that's good to hear. Looking forward to the report tomorrow.
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    Kronos
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    a wholly owned subsidiary of Motorola Inc. (NYSE:MOT) has placed its third and largest order with Genesi for the


    [devil's advocate]

    1+1+2 = 4 boards  :-o

    [/devil's advocate]

    A bit more detail would be welcomed, how many, and if that is NDAed, for what ?
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    Kronos,

    First they will need 1500 jungle cats and the biggest beds at the Playboy Mansion. And just as many commodes.

    Is that enough clue?  ; }

    OK - OK - Joke's over! None of that is true. Back on the bus!
         
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    takemehomegrandma
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    That's (probably) really great news! I hope that this will move things forward on all fronts. Congratulations! :-)

    The Pegasos II is truly a great computer, one of a kind, and I am not surprised they want it! :-)
    MorphOS is Amiga done right! :-)
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    ThePlayer
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    "A Genesi report and pictures from the Event will be released on May 1st."

    What about that?
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bbrv
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    Here is the report. The pictures are online but not loading properly. We will sort it out shortly. R&B  :-)

    SNDF Report:

    The Freescale Semiconductor Smart Networks Developer Forum (SNDF) represented a quantum leap for Genesi/bplan in terms of industry exposure and sales. Held at the Hyatt Regency Dallas, 26-29 April 2004, the Forum was like no other in which we have participated. For three and a half days Genesi presented eight Open Desktop Pegasos II G4 workstations in its Booth running various operating systems. Ten additional machines ran in two separate Internet Cafes for the Forums participants. The operating systems featured in the Booth included, MorphOS, Debian, Suse, and Yellow Dog Linux. In the Internet Cafe Debian was used. What made the Internet Cafe interesting to many of the Forum participants was that one Open Desktop Workstation (ODW) functioned as a File Server and Internet gateway while the other four operated as disk-less thin clients. This provided a simulated office environment that generated questions and interest. Participants used OpenOffice to view Forum presentations offered for download online through the thin clients to USB memory sticks that were provided to all in attendance. The ODW was also also featured by Freescale's Applications Engineering Team in their Booth demonstrating embedded development tools and applications.

    One of the most interesting aspects of the Forum was the high concentration of technology experts and hands on laboratory classes and seminars as well as long range strategic planning discussions. For example, Matt Sealey had a chance to attended classes on AltiVec programming, Sven Luther worked with the Freescale Application Engineering Team to bring up and demonstrate in Forum labs a new AltiVec G4 tool kit on the ODW, and Gerald Carda and Thomas Knäbel had the opportunity Freescale hardware development engineers. During the conference, Dr Claudine Simson, the Freescale Chief Technology Officer, took the time to visit the Genesi Booth and see the Open Desktop Workstation. In her Keynote speech, she had outlined the current status and future plans of Freescale in terms of the PowerPC® core roadmap and at the Booth she confirmed the value of the Open Desktop Workstation to that evolution.

    The following day, Bill Dunnigan, VP and General Manager of the Computing Platforms Division, placed Freescale's third order for complete Open Desktop Workstations. It is the largest single order Genesi has ever received. Many of these units will be provided to freescale partners and customers, including Fermi National Laboratory, who are building a cluster system to analyze proton/anti-proton collisions; Cisco, who find the power efficiency features of the PowerPC and the Pegasos appealing as a new low cost netcom device, and Green Hills Software, who will port Integrity operating system and a number of embedded software development tools to the Pegasos/Open Desktop Workstation. Of course, freescale will also receive additional units for internal use and Gerald Carda will be in Austin the first week of June to present a seminar on the Pegasos and the Open Desktop Workstation to a worldwide conference of Freescale Field Application Engineers. The Open Desktop Workstation will be found in freescale offices worldwide.

    The Forum was the first time freescale had publicly called themselves "freescale" as opposed the the Motorola Semiconductor Products Sector and the G4 CPU series was re-branded the e600 and e700 Cores and Platforms. It was a well organized event and Genesi is proud to have participated. It was a great opportunity for Genesi and with the experience we have had in Dallas we will be even more prepared for SNDF Europe in Frankfurt at the end of September. For this Event, we will seek to involve many more members of the Genesi, bplan and MorphOS team and we will be ready to present ourselves and our technology in the best manner possible.
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  • Targhan
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    I'de like to add something to this :-)

    Time and time again, people would come to the internet cafe with the notion that they were regular PC's. Even with clear acrylic cases, many would "see" a regular PC. Then, when learning that the machines were PPC based, their eyes would open wide in amazement. I was asked many times, on a daily basis, if the systems were available to the public.

    I got the feeling that the form-factor and the ability to use industry standard AGP/PCI cards was more impressive to many of the attendees than any perfomance comparison.
    :idea:Targhan

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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Acill
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    Wow thats good news! I still cant get linux installed though! How the heck do you guys do it?!!

    This is some awsome news though! I can see the Pegasos blow past the A1 now!! Will MorphOS still be updated in the future? It sounds to me like Linux is to be the primary OS for the Pegasos platform for now on. This would upset me quite a bit.
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  • Targhan
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    Hi Acill

    I wouldn't say primary or secondary. It is more of a symbiotic relationship. MorphOS needs time to mature and grow. Linux can give MorphOS that needed time. Linux has grown to the point that it needs to ship with computers by default instead of as an option. Every system we ship will come with MorphOS. The ODW's will all ship with multiple flavors of Linux as well. In my opinion, this is only a good thing--because people need a choice.

    Choice: It isn't a good thing; it's the ONLY thing!
    :idea:Targhan

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  • Targhan
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    Before anyone asks, the tag line is supposed to be an oxymoron.
    :idea:Targhan

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    takemehomegrandma
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    This looks really great! Congratulations! :-)
    MorphOS is Amiga done right! :-)
    MorphOS NG will be AROS done right! :-)
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    Acill : Will MorphOS still be updated in the future?

    Sure. No reason to think that because other OSes are important for Pegasos progress, that MorphOS is not. We've been saying this for well over a year now, that we want to present CHOICES to the user - whether an individual or an enterprise. This is just plain economics and not religion  : }

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    It sounds to me like Linux is to be the primary OS for the Pegasos platform for now on.

    Nothing much has changed in the overall approach we are taking since I got involved 18 or 19 months ago. Right now we are concentrating on Linux because there is a demand for this, because that is what is wanted, because that helps the Pegasos have a future, encouraging more form factors and uses for the Pegasos concept.

    But you don't see a VACATED sign on #morphos do you?  ; } - MorphOS is and will continue to get a boost for anything that gives the winged Pegasos a higher flight  : }

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    This would upset me quite a bit.

    It would be a sad world indeed for many of us if we were forced to think of Linux as our only operating system choice ; }
         
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    Welcome back to the forums man! :-D

    Hope to see continuation of the excellent work between Phoenix and Genesi.

    Steve
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