The Pegasos Game Console +
  • Just looking around
    Posts: 8 from 2003/12/21
    I wonder what could be done about copy protection on this machine? :)
  • »07.04.04 - 03:20
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Hawk
    Posts: 204 from 2003/12/29
    From: Tokyo - Japan
    I can not say much, but just my impressions about the game market.

    Usually the best games come from the Japanese companies. They manage to do almost cinematic experiences for any game console (not PCs). But MorphOS lacks of a decent japanese support, so it may be very difficult to rise interest amongst japanese developers.

    I think everything is about games. Microsoft tried to buy rights on Final Fantasy for a XBox version of the game, but it was cancelled when Sony acquired an amount of Squaresoft capital...

    The Xbox is just a PC, as the Amiga CD32 was just an A1200 (although I bought both ... ^^;), but Microsoft has so much money that they can survive trying to release good games, paying money to important game companies, also here in Japan.

    So, for me, everything is about games. I bought a damn Wonder Swan Color instead of a Game Boy because Final Fantasy I,II and IV was available for Wonder Swan.

    So, which titles will be available for this console? Birdie Shoot? Software Tycoon? Even if they are good (I don't know, since I don't play them), who will know?

    As Bill Gates knows, most of the part is marketing. Fortunately, game consoles are something more, so there is always some light... And XBox won't stay just with marketing.
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    -- Maxtor 6Y120P0 120GB, 7200 rpm -- ATI Radeon 7500 - (64MB, TV-out)
    -- Minuet Slimline PC case -- MorphOS 1.4.5 + Gentoo
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  • »07.04.04 - 05:36
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Jupp3
    Posts: 1193 from 2003/2/24
    From: Helsinki, Finland
    one thing I'd like to have is possibility to run "own software" on it, not just "official games"

    I'm not talking about piracy here, but ability to just compile program/game, and be able to run it on console directly.

    That would solve the "emulator problem" as people could use unofficial ones (scummvm, mame, snes9x etc.) but then it might be harder to prevent people from copying commercial software...

    Of course you can get emulators, avi players etc. for Playstation2 and Xbox at least, but users will need to install mod chip before it's really possible (which will also enable users to play copied commercial games)
  • »07.04.04 - 07:57
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    warface
    Posts: 653 from 2003/2/24
    From: Hungary
    Reading through the thread, 2 options seems to be revolutionary enough to catch ppl'sinterest.


    1., A portable games console with a TV glass (those which virtually "project" a TV screen ahead of you, but only for your half eye, and you can still see what goes around you, so you can walk, travel, etc.

    2., AFAIR there was still no game console coming bundled with a VR headset. This approach however requires at least 1 ground breaking game title to be developed for the device, which costs plenty of money.
  • »07.04.04 - 11:09
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    downix
    Posts: 105 from 2003/2/10
    From: Lightning capi...
    @warface

    The VirtualBoy didn't do too well. And the JaguarVR never was released due to cost. And that cost has not gone down much since then (as found out by the folk trying to make a few VR headsets to resell)
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  • »08.04.04 - 15:23
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Jupp3
    Posts: 1193 from 2003/2/24
    From: Helsinki, Finland
    Quote:

    This approach however requires at least 1 ground breaking game title to be developed for the device

    I've always wondered, if anyone has created "virtual reality version" of classic "The Sentinel"...

    I mean, that game would be perfect for such system, as player doesn't move at all (But instead teleport)

    But then again, it's more like a cult game than mainstream...

    But still would be cool!
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  • Cocoon
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    Jonny_Rico
    Posts: 45 from 2004/3/18
    From: Germany
    As I said before... before thinking of a "game maschine" and some nonexisting customers for this kind... there should be more sold Pegasos with much more software and a far better organization, than it exists now! -> f.e. every new programmer who is really good in coding is upset because of some misswords/-actions of some Genisis people. There still is no TCP/IP, which is really needed, the Pegasos is for now far outdated...etc.
  • »08.04.04 - 18:51
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    hooligan
    Posts: 1948 from 2003/2/23
    From: Lahti, Finland
    >here still is no TCP/IP, which is really needed, the Pegasos is for now far outdated...etc.

    Actually, you are talking about MorphOS here, not Pegasos.
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  • »08.04.04 - 20:48
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  • Cocoon
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    Jonny_Rico
    Posts: 45 from 2004/3/18
    From: Germany
    Nope... I mean the Pegasos, who is outdated in comparison to an Apple...
  • »09.04.04 - 16:13
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    downix
    Posts: 105 from 2003/2/10
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    Then why do you mention a TCP/IP stack? I surf the net using Linux's built-in TCP/IP stack on the Pegasos already.

    As for technology-base, the Pegasos is not far behind the Mac and in some areas the Pegasos is ahead. same speed USB, previous-gen Firewire tied to a better backbone resulting in better transfer times, ECC support in the Pegasos enabling more robust memory capability, same speed ATA support.
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  • Cocoon
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    Jonny_Rico
    Posts: 45 from 2004/3/18
    From: Germany
    and whats with processor and agp-slot??
  • »09.04.04 - 19:55
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    Posts: 199 from 2004/2/9
    People are now going for digital camera. What about adding port to directly review the pictures on the TV trough the console?
    The game number one of sales last Crhistmas is karaoke unit. This can also be easily added :)
    Last Idea, add a HD to record in real time the TV.
    This will be a complete unit, instead of having a stereo, game console, DVD and a computer ......
  • »10.04.04 - 05:44
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bbrv
    Posts: 751 from 2003/2/14
    From: Earth
    Hi Tapero welcome to MorphZone!  :-D

    Well, the more refined idea looks like this:

    Title: Digital Distribution

    The medium is the message - AGAIN!

    Slide #1: What is Changing and What is Not

    People will do what they do already. “New” must bring performance, lower cost, ease of use and convenience - rotary to mobile phone.

    Entertainment drives technology into the home - VCR to DVD.

    Broadband Internet arrives. Security and privacy are challenged.

    Physical digital distribution is broken. Piracy threatens the future.

    Open Source Software (OSS) is the greatest change driver in IT - highest OS growth rate; unofficial Linux ports to every game platform.

    Consumer Electronics need increasing computer functionality - TiVo.

    Intel/Microsoft based computing is strong, but barriers mount. The movement to PowerPC for efficiency and performance grows.

    3DO NOT!

    Slide #2: PowerPC Partnership - The Digital Home Console

    The Open Desktop Workstation - A Standardized PowerPC Embedded Software Development System launches at the Smart Networks Developer Forum (SNDF) in Dallas, 26-29 April 2004 - egg hatched; chicken ready.

    Development Platform ready and work begins NOW - price and performance optimization plan in place to converge on mass market release.

    Open Firmware achieves PC compatibility inside (PCI) and outside the “box” (gamepad, keyboard, DVI, USB, VR headset) - everything works.

    Linux ready - OSS Community has a dedicated platform - rally starts. MorphOS rides the wave! Surf's up!

    Features OSS bundled tools and more.

    New technologies to be integrated - Bluetooth, Voice and Video over IP, internal SIM and external smart card features. More to come.

    The “Home Brew” or “Farm League” Market is Ready to GO!

    Slide #3: Digital Distribution

    Security - SIM features enable ID and authentication capability; a Trusted Community is established; brings ring-tone success to TV.

    Micropayments - scales from lowest monetary value ($.01); can accept credit, debit, or pre-paid cards; anonymity of transactions possible.

    Facilitates loyalty, electronic coupons, level or credit validation, etc.

    Drives secondary technology (V/VoIP, Bluetooth, PVR, HDTV) from game play into multiple uses through the same basic platform.

    Leverages existing business models and drives revenue to terminal.

    TV Syndication model for mass market through narrowcast distribution.

    Audience measurement; advertising directed; full transaction medium.

    Usage driven from subscription; “comps” can be built in to lower price.

    Scalable backend based on demand - uses same hardware platform.

    As with the fax machine, to “send” or “receive” you need one.

    Conclusion:

    As TV, but this time the technology, network and broadcast affiliate stay in ONE DISTRIBUTION package.

    Broad Developer/Community support programs in place and active.

    A complete digital distribution platform connecting developer to market, content to user and user to user on demand.

    :-D

    It is finally time to get this *game* in gear!

    R&B  :-)
  • »10.04.04 - 11:32
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    MorphDelf
    Posts: 274 from 2004/2/20
    From: Oslo, Norway
    I just wonder bbrv, if this idea is from me originally?

    would be nice to get some credits here :)

    Regards,
    Michal, www.amigaworld.org
  • »10.04.04 - 23:40
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