Hello.

I heard that the Pegasos II is not available anymore.
You can preorder one but you won't get
one before the next production run. Is this true?
I tried to check but none of the shops i looked at
had an available state there.

Talking about availability....
What about the Pegasos III, BBRV stated in their Superbundle posting (year 2003) that it will be available early next year. In the TV show on GIGA
the people from BPLAN said something about fall 2004. So anybody can clear this up for me?

I don't expect pegasos3 this year already... next year is realistic.

about availability of peg2: yes they are some waiting times, because the peg2 probably sold faster than expected. But preordering is a good idea: who first preoders will get peg2 first. :) AFAIK next production is _very_ soon. (in 1-2 weeks or so, I'm not 100% sure).

regards,
tokai

Thanks for the answer.
Maybe i will preorder one then...

I'm sure a pre-order now will only add a couple of weeks to the waiting time. In the meantime, it would be a good idea to go over the FAQ's around here

Many seem to be interested in Pegasos but are a bit uncertain, becouse of forthcoming Pegasos 3...

Wonder if there will be Pegasos 2 => Pegasos 3 upgrade deal as there's now for Pegasos 1 => Pegasos 2?

While I can't make a promise, I can certainly speculate that it is in the realm of possibilities. There are so many contributing factors to such decisions, I doubt that it would be made before the PegasosIII actually goes into production. With that said, I think the whole idea of the PegasosIII is far enough into the future that we're talking about a moving target.

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Perhaps the upgrade options we've seen might have been functioning as way to compensate for not quite meeting announced specifications and expectations, much related to the Articia problems?

The Pegasos is sold as a dual PPC motherboard (which of course should be stable), with G3 or G4. At first it was not stable, which is very cruical, so there was a (free) april upgrade for non non-april Pegasos boards (however, the april added unnecessary costs and was perhaps not an optimal solution in the long run). Then there was an upgrade and from Peg1 to Peg2 for G4 reasons (a Peg1 G4 version was released, but only certain random combinations of motherboards and G4 CPU's seemed to work together). The Peg2 might also be handling processor cards with dual CPU's a bit better thanks to DDR, á la Apple?

Anyway, IMHO you should not count on a Peg2->Peg3 upgrade. Also, the Peg2 is very tangible and real. The Peg3 is more of a vague announcement of a future ambition. My advice would be to get a Peg2 while you can (AFAIK it's not yet too late to order one) instead of dreaming about future things that may or may not come to pass.

Great advice takemehomegrandma

IIRC A public "Pegasos3" aka PegG5 is a long way off.

Focus should be on Pegasos2. It is very stable and the true Pegasos. If you want Power get the G4. ATM the following OS run:

1. Morphos 1.4.x

2. Linux - Debian, Gentoo, Mandrake

3. OpenBSD

4.. and others in beta

So, order now dont base your decision products that do not exsist...

magnetic

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I don't think so such an option should be available, at least not directly from Genesi. The upgrade path for Pegasos 1 owners was offered because the Peg1 was stated to be a beta hardware, and had known problems. But this is not the case any more with Peg2. If you buy a PC mainboard, will you get a discount from the manufacturer in his future products? No, of course.

But of course resellers are free to offer such constructs, if there is a demand for that, i think. But as other people said, never base your decision on a not (yet) existing product.

Hi!

AFAIK, BB and RV told, that Peg1 -> Peg2 upgrade is the last 'special offer' from genesi, everything next will be strictly commercial.

Bye.

Good advice ChainQ!

Congrats on your tv appearance! Is there a subtited version coming soon?

magnetic

Yes, and there will be another show tonight at 21:00 CET, on the same chan. Longer, better, and we'll show much more of MOS and LinuxPPC. The two shows will be available in subtitled version together then. (Subtitle of the first show is already done, only needs final touches.)

@Chain-Q:

good luck for tonight! Don't forget to show AmiNetRadio and mplayer... and maybe Euph0ria the AmiNetRadio/Kaya/AmigaAMP plugin... (if you can catch me on IRC (vapor.com) before then I could provide lateset unreleased version)

regards,
tokai

OK you got me. I preordered one with 512 MB Ram.
The other things are already somewhere around here. I didn't go for the G4 because it is just too
expensive for the performance it gives. I wish the long awaited G3 + AltiVec from IBM was already here
(if it ever sees daylight)... I will see if the Pegasos fits me.
Maybe i find the time to learn a little c++ on it. "Hello World!"

It is bound to happen...

Chain-Q and the Pegasos!

It is better than rap, rock and roll, and hip hop combined!

It is Hungarian PegPower!

Keep up the great work Karoly!

:-D

R&B

P.S. Thanks for the order Donar!!!

Doh! A company that thanks the purchasers "handwritten".
Not just with automatic reply! I now think i ordered the "Mercedes of computing."

Thanks to you and Bplan, that gave us the computers others only talked about for years and years.

@Donar

This happens because more than just appreciating customers, we [speaking in Genesi official voice] enjoy being part of the user-community.[/official voice]

Gee, I don't use the [official voice] often, do I?