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No, there isn't.

A modern OS on modern hardware can run each browser tab as a separate, isolated process - there's a UI process, a network process and then each browser tab has a separate web process where the JavaScript runs. But those modern OS cannot "interrupt" JavaScript, either. Best they can do is to kill the offending (busylooping) process entirely and start a new one and re-load the page there.

And if you're wondering why this isn't the case on MorphOS - run TaskManager on Windows and see how much RAM each web process of Chrome needs. That'd be even worse on MorphOS (add 50-60MB per process). Not to mention you have to have an RPC (inter-process communication) to make this all work which means serializing and deserializing everything passing between the UI / Network / Web processes. That's a additional CPU burden, simply offset by the fact that CPUs other than PPC have advanced quite considerably while the best MorphOS CPU is now >20 years old.

You think Wayfarer takes a while to start? Imagine each new tab would take this long with the 1 tab per process approach.

[ Edited by jacadcaps 20.05.2024 - 20:04 ]

I'm back to using v7.8 currently, as v8.x seems to be more trouble than it's worth using, or actually sitting and waiting while nothing happens for most of the time, with either the CPU running at full speed while the page and the whole browser is "frozen in time"!

There ought to be some way to interrupt any webpage/JavaScript (tab) and either pause or halt/kill it whenever it causes more trouble than it offers the experience it is supposed to. I can't even get Task Manager to launch to send a "Break" to Wayfarer to stop it (wasting CPU cycles doing nothing) as the JavaScript has a stranglehold on the system, which should just not be possible.

Interesting. This has not shown up in my tests. I'll try to fix this in a couple of days.

Reach different servers: Needs also disabled HTTP/2-support to work!

Edit: Does'nt work allways .... after some pages loaded, same error occours...

[ Editiert durch Amigaharry2 19.05.2024 - 21:09 ]

Same here, lots of "cannot connect to server" messages.
Couldn't even login to Morphzone with Wayfarer
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Same here!

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Thanks. Unfortunately, the problem still exists even if I disable HTTP2 suport. For example : https://www.meteo-lyon.net

There is also a new problem, mentionned by others : on a regular basis, we get "cannot connect to server".

[ Edité par K-L 19.05.2024 - 16:30 ]

thanks for all
little problem 'cannot connect to server'
i have to close and open wayfarer

@jacadcaps

With 8.4 it comes Error Message to load a Website:

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This Error Message comes on 4 of 5 Websites.

https://wayfarer.icu not reachable!

load from here: https://www.morphos-storage.net/dl.php?id=2132748

8.4 out to address the HTTP/2 problem.

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Thanks, it did the trick :)

@K-L

Please open Wayfarer's Settings and go to Network and set HTTP/2 to Disabled. Let me know if this makes a difference.

@K-L: As I found out on my system (G5), it depends on other, parallel running or shortly closed programs, before starting Wayfarer. In some cases Wayfarer crashes or show this described behaviour. (but tis was at previous versions of Wayfarer the same).
Following programs mostly influences Wayfarer: OWB, ImageFX, Pagestream (not allways), HD-Record, and some others. All of them is one property common: they need a lot of RAM! I guess that they don't have a clean RAM-management.

My experience: Wayfarer 8.3, started on a fresh bootet system, is very stable. If you start above mentioned progs after Wayfarer has come up, it does'nt influence Wayfarer (maybe one of those progs will crash then...but not Wayfarer)

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Thanks, unfortunaletly I will have to revert to the former one : Wayfarer 8.3 stalls without any reason when trying to load websites. It cannot be closed and even Ambient menus wont't appear (to reboot the PowerMac). Ambient is frozen.

[ Edité par K-L 17.05.2024 - 08:37 ]

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Thanks for the update! Searching and replying in morph.zone works again.

w00t!!!11

Wayfarer 8.3 is now out with fixes for reported crashes, enabled Beacon API support and updated linklibs.

@NewSense

You can try disabling HTTP/2 support in Network settings and see it that fixes image uploads.

@ jacadcaps - Though v8.2 of Wayfarer seems to be stable and working OK, it is unable to upload photos to the ebay servers for any problems with an item it seems. I used to be able to upload these images as PNG files, though JP(E)Gs were not accepted, but now neither file type is accepted, and generates a server error at ebay that rejects the upload.

The same image(s) are accepted via Windows systems. I don't know what is the cause, but probably the fact that we are using a basically unsupported mainstream web browser cannot be helping our situation, but if there is anything you can do to fix this issue then I'd appreciate it.

I know Wayfarer is well supported by you and Piru, but Cloudflare and others out there just don't care about that!

@emeck

Saw the reports. I'm looking into it.

@jacadcaps
Everytime I use search or click the reply button in a thread Wayfarer 8.2 crashes.

I also tried downloading and running 8.2 in a new location but same behaviour.

Mac Mini PowerMac 10,2. I have send both cases bug reports. Hope those shed some light.

@ jacadcaps many THX for your hard work. I have testet PayPal with Wayfarer and it works. I send you a little bit THX in Euro :)

Sometimes Wayfarer cannot be quit. Requester occours, but does nothing when clicking on "Beenden".
Cannot say what circumstances this behaviour causes - comes randomly.
Have to reboot machine.

Big thanks to all who donated!

Version 8.2 is now out. I've rebased to the latest stable WebKitGTK 2.44.1 since it fixes some of the additional crashes people were seeing.

This version also enables lazy image loading support which may improve performance on websites using the functionality.