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  • ASiegel
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    (Thread clean up.)
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    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3339 from 2003/3/5
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    Fan control is outside of Thermals app. That's just a frontend to display stuff.

    Either way, this has nothing to do with Wayfarer.

    [ Edited by jacadcaps 09.09.2026 - 00:28 ]
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Divinity
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    sorry, but I’m not sure which one you’re referring to
    If you mean ‘Thermals’ in the Utilities folder, when I run it on my PMacG5 11.2 I get the message: ‘This architecture is not currently supported by Thermals’.
    What should I use to view and adjust the fan speed settings?
  • »08.09.26 - 19:28
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    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3339 from 2003/3/5
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    I think you're confused. That tool you've linked to is obsolete. MorphOS has proper fan control code for all of the models you've mentioned.
  • »08.09.26 - 11:48
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Divinity
    Posts: 532 from 2009/9/8
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    jacadcaps wrote:
    Coming with MorphOS 3.22:

    Youtube

    Dual core/dual CPU utilized in G5 Macs, 4 cores on Mirari. Video, audio, image decoding offloaded to the additional cores.


    Great news, Jacek!
    I have a request: since this will also tax the cores or additional CPUs depending on the different PMacG5 models, it would be helpful to have a utility to increase the fan speeds on these Mac models as needed, something similar to this software https://crystalidea.com/macs-fan-control/download or this one https://www.morphos-storage.net/?id=1604130 which would allow for better management of everything via a GUI
    Incidentally, unlike the 7.3 and 7.2 models, the 11.2 models have a shell command for fan control that isn’t usable in MorphOS (if I remember correctly, this command is called PowerMac7FanControl), so it would be very useful to have something that works for all PMacG5 models and even better if everything could be adjusted via a GUI
    What do you think?
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12578 from 2003/5/22
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    > More in due time. I don't have all of the hw you've listed,
    > so it's unlikely all of those will be supported.

    Fair enough. In case of support for Mirari's 3 additional cores, is one video decoded by all 3 cores in parallel (= triple decoding speed and thus ability to decode videos one core would be too slow for), or still just one core per video (= up to 3 videos in parallel)?
  • »06.09.26 - 11:34
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    geit
    Posts: 1102 from 2004/9/23
    Kronos broke the internet. Again!
  • »06.09.26 - 05:42
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    Kronos
    Posts: 2589 from 2003/2/24
    @NewSense

    Pretty sure there will be a 3.21 release focussing on bugfixes and a 3.22 with new features some time later. At least thats how it has been done in the past and is supposed to be done.
    Timeline for both is anybody's guess as usual.

    These extra tasks will run outside of ABox, so no (direct) calls to legacy API no way to run existing apps this way (obviously) but also no restrictions imposed 40 years ago.
    What isn't clear whether these "QBox" ( *runs*) tasks are still 32Bit or 64 which would completely rule out anything G4.
    Not that Dual_G4 would make much sense in the 1st place with the limited number of people running these and the hard limitation to either 2 or 1.5GB.

    [ Edited by Kronos 06.09.2026 - 04:52 ]
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    NewSense
    Posts: 1619 from 2012/11/9
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    Quote:

    jacadcaps wrote: Coming with MorphOS 3.22: Youtube
    So, will there be a v3.21 to fix the demuxer issue, or will the MOS Dev. Team be going straight to v3.22?
    Quote:

    jacadcaps wrote: Dual core/dual CPU utilized in G5 Macs, 4 cores on Mirari. Video, audio, image decoding offloaded to the additional cores.
    So, does that mean that the tasks to action the video, audio, image decoding are run as separate threads/tasks, or is it implemented in a different way?
    I thought using the additional core(s)/CPU(s) was not possible with Amiga type systems?
    Is this your, or someone else's idea to implement this functionality?
    What speed increase is there to the system's CPU(s)/Core(s) when this method is implemented?
    MacMini 1.5GHz,64MB VRAM, PowerBooks A1138/9 (Model 5,8/9),PowerMac G5 2.3GHz(DP), iMac A1145 2.1GHz 20", all with MorphOS v3.20+,Airport,Bluetooth,A1016 Keyboard,T-RB22 Mouse,DVD-RW-DL,MiniMax,Firewire/USB2 & MacOSX 10.4/5
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    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3339 from 2003/3/5
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    More in due time. I don't have all of the hw you've listed, so it's unlikely all of those will be supported.
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12578 from 2003/5/22
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    > Dual core/dual CPU utilized in G5 Macs, 4 cores on Mirari.
    > Video, audio, image decoding offloaded to the additional cores.

    Wow, that's insane :-D Must be a decade or so since I heard of bigfoot's successful attempts at running something tangible on further cores AMP/ASMP style.
    What about the 2nd CPU in PowerMac Dual-G4, or 3rd and 4th cores (2nd CPU) in Quad-G5, or 2nd to 4th core in X5000/40?
  • »05.09.26 - 23:45
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    Zylesea
    Posts: 2095 from 2003/6/4
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    jacadcaps schrieb:
    Coming with MorphOS 3.22:

    Youtube

    Dual core/dual CPU utilized in G5 Macs, 4 cores on Mirari. Video, audio, image decoding offloaded to the additional cores.


    Bamm!

    Deeply impressed. As said, still happy about the JIT speedup and now a steady supply of groundbreaking improvements. Wow, wow, wow!
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    Whenever you're sad just remember the world is 4.543 billion years old and you somehow managed to exist at the same time as David Bowie.
    ...and Matthias , my friend - RIP
  • »05.09.26 - 22:06
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    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3339 from 2003/3/5
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    Coming with MorphOS 3.22:

    Youtube

    Dual core/dual CPU utilized in G5 Macs, 4 cores on Mirari. Video, audio, image decoding offloaded to the additional cores.
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    Tomtom76
    Posts: 49 from 2021/6/26
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    My jaw is on the floor. I can't wait to test this out.
    Powerbook G4 A1106 MorphOS 3.20 & MacOSX 10.4
  • »27.08.26 - 16:57
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    matt3
    Posts: 785 from 2004/2/10
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    NewSense wrote:
    @ jacadcaps - Most impressive,

    . . . . . Most impressive INDEED . . . Young Skia-Walker

    So, seems it does, that a great new browser of the web built have you! young Jaca - wan in a million you seem to be!


    Perfectly Said! Love it...

    I might ask to borrow it sometime.
  • »27.08.26 - 16:46
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    @ jacadcaps - Most impressive,

    . . . . . Most impressive INDEED . . . Young Skia-Walker

    So, seems it does, that a great new browser of the web built have you! young Jaca - wan in a million you seem to be!
    MacMini 1.5GHz,64MB VRAM, PowerBooks A1138/9 (Model 5,8/9),PowerMac G5 2.3GHz(DP), iMac A1145 2.1GHz 20", all with MorphOS v3.20+,Airport,Bluetooth,A1016 Keyboard,T-RB22 Mouse,DVD-RW-DL,MiniMax,Firewire/USB2 & MacOSX 10.4/5
  • »27.08.26 - 14:01
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    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3339 from 2003/3/5
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    Quote:

    analogkid wrote:
    That's great! :) But Wayfarer 12 will still work on R200 cards, without GL rendering?


    Yes, the Skia-CPU path has been extensively tested and got a lot of Altivec love too. That said, the difference is well worth a hw upgrade.
  • »27.08.26 - 09:47
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    Zylesea
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    Quote:

    jacadcaps schrieb:
    Something really cool is coming with Wayfarer 12!

    youtube

    That's 15fps in Google Streetview on a PowerMac G5 2.3GHz w/ Radeon X1950/256MB. Starting with version 12, Wayfarer will render using the Skia graphics library and if your graphics card is from the R300 to R500 graphics family, rendering, including the canvas, will be done fully on the GPU.

    Note: performance will vary depending on hardware. G5 is by far the fastest here due to having the fastest GART vram>ram copies. R200 or other cards are unsupported. R100-R200 do not support shaders and therefore will never use the GL backend.


    I praise you! Still happy since the JIT update, which gave the crucical speed boost to use Wayfarer as daily driver again (for most of my needs!). Another speed bump is always welcome. Great!
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    ...and Matthias , my friend - RIP
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    Piru
    Posts: 626 from 2003/2/24
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    Quote:

    analogkid wrote:
    Wayfarer 12 will still work on R200 cards, without GL rendering?

    Yes it will.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    analogkid
    Posts: 724 from 2004/11/3
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    That's great! :) But Wayfarer 12 will still work on R200 cards, without GL rendering?
  • »27.08.26 - 03:48
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    eliot
    Posts: 655 from 2004/4/15
    Wow, hw rendering, that’s great!
    regards
    eliot
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