New Modern Webkit-based Browser In Development
  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1392 from 2010/1/6
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    I do all these things (banking, ebay, etc) with MorphOS since years without any problems, unlike with my Windows (7/10/11) (used on Laptop), which was hacked several times (ebay, amazon, ...)! So "security by obscurity" seems to work better, then all this "modern" WinBrowsers, which only floods you with adverticing-crab.
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    amigadave
    Posts: 2795 from 2006/3/21
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    NewSense wrote:
    Additional to my above comment . . .

     :-(


    I probably shouldn't be commenting in any of these forums, as I haven't used any of my MorphOS compatible computers for well over two years, but I thought I would check this forum thread to see what the latest news regarding this web browser was about. I'm frankly surprised that anyone would consider using any web browser on MorphOS to do anything other than reading various websites, without the most recent security features, since MorphOS has little to no security itself, other than security by obscurity. Surely everyone here is using another system and OS, instead of trying to use MorphOS as their only computer system? I can't imagine trying to do anything on E-Bay with a MorphOS system, or any other site that sells items, or does banking, or requires information that I would not risk being revealed to others.

    It is good to see that maintenance work is still being done on this web browser, to keep it as up to date as possible. I applaud the developers who still add to the value of MorphOS in various ways.

    Now I'll probably disappear again for another few years, unless MorphOS finally gets ported, or recreated on some modern hardware that I can buy new and use for several years.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    NewSense
    Posts: 1619 from 2012/11/9
    From: Manchester, UK/GB
    Additional to my above comment . . .

    Very recently, last few day(s), eBay (UK) now have a red banner headline that basically reads as "if you want to continue to buy or sell on ebay then you need to upgrade your browser", which as I am running v8.6 of Wayfarer there is no option to upgrade it for MorphOS, and with being unable to edit the User Agent field (even though I am supposed to be able to do so) then I cannot imitate a browser that is supported fully by eBay it seems. :-(

    Also, my system (of recent), and only with regard to Wayfarer, as even OWB (Odyssey) does not exhibit this weird behaviour it seems, as text highlighting with Ambient and other programs seems to work as it always has done, now fails to allow left mouse buttton dragging highlighting of text - only when using Wayfarer!

    In that if I position my text cursor prior to or after where I want to drag the cursor position to the left or the right, or even up or down, but then the text does not get highlighted, which is really weird, and the first time this has ever happened with MorphOS - well specifically Wayfarer. Also the Copy option does not get shown in the drop-down menu, UNLESS I have highlighted the text using the keyboard option, which seems to be the only way I can highlight text now other than to "Select All"!

    There is still limited text highlighting, but where you have usually been able to select text virtually anywhere on a page by dragging your mouse over the text with the left mouse button held down, that function predominantly no longer works any more!

    So, do I need to change some setting or has some part of MorphOS got corrupted in some way? :-?

    However, I can highlight text using the keyboard - is there a way I can correct this or is this some sort of corruption in Ambient or MUI that needs to be addressed? :-?

    That said, it only seems to relate to text mouse-drag-cursor highlighting when using Wayfarer!

    Maybe this text editing issue is also affecting the situation that I cannot amend the supposed to be editable field for customising any User Agent option? :-?

    Also, with v8.6 of Wayfarer the screen redraw/refresh seems to be at its worst implementation yet, as often a screen, tab or window presumably gets updated but the refresh is either not shown fully or just does not happen, or only partially happens, so you end up having to click another page or tab and then return to the tab in question to see that it has then been refreshed and the current view has actually now been displayed, which can be quite disconcerting / alarming! :-(
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    NewSense
    Posts: 1619 from 2012/11/9
    From: Manchester, UK/GB
    I have tried to edit the User-Agent text field, and I can click into it, but as soon as I start to type anything after clicking on the User Agent option, and changing it to "Custom", then as soon as I type an initial character, whatever it is, lowercase, uppercase or a numeral, or other symbol then it fails to add that character into the field, and immediately reverts the User Agent option above the text field to Safari - which is extremely frustrating. :-(

    So if I was going to change the Custom field from:

    Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_15_7) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/15.4 Safari/605.1.15

    to . . . the Custom option you stated above . . .

    Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_15_7) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/17.4 Safari/605.1.15

    Then as soon as I type the "7" the 'blinking' cursor stops blinking and the "Custom" User Agent button changes immediately back to Safari, and no text is entered in the User Agent field. Even if I try to delete the '5' or any other character then the same effect happens, where the 'blinking' cursor is deactivated in the User Agent edit field and the button above reverts to 'Safari'! :-(

    I even tried to edit the JSON file in the Settings directory, but whatever I change in there is not reflected in the Settings when I relaunch the program.

    I downloaded a new archive of Wayfarer and did not use any of my saved settings, just the default ones that are generated when the program starts, and the same issue is still happening. There has got to be something wrong somewhere, from what you have indicated should happen, but it is just not working for me!
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  • »01.06.24 - 06:46
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3339 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    You can edit the user agent field just fine and the cycle gadget will then switch to Custom.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    NewSense
    Posts: 1619 from 2012/11/9
    From: Manchester, UK/GB
    Quote:

    jacadcaps wrote: There's nothing wrong with HTTP/2 in latest Wayfarer. No reason for you to have it off.
    The only reason it was off, and on, was to try to by-pass the issue with the Royal Mail site now allowing the download, but none of the options of HTTP/2 being toggled on/off offered any way to download the PDF file. :-(
    Quote:

    jacadcaps wrote: As for reCaptcha - it's something Google has changed that makes it fail. I've tested Wayfarer v4-7 and it fails on all of them (just not on Google's own reCaptcha test page, ha ha). We're most likely out of luck here.
    Well it seems that there is a purge going on within the internet as eBay is also generating a reCaptcha that is trying to block access to some browsers that these sites seem to be trying to stop from using monetary/financial services. Am I correct in thinking there is a purge of some sort of this type that is likely to affect Wayfarer and ultimately block it from these sites in the near future?
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    jacadcaps wrote: I've had a look at the PDF file and it looks like it's a User-Agent issue. "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_15_7) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/17.4 Safari/605.1.15" works, Wayfarer's default Safari U-A does not.
    That's good that you have found a User Agent to access the file . . . but Wayfarer v8.6 seems to offer the same User Agent profile for any of the User Agents that I choose, whether that be Wayfarer, Chrome, Safari, Amazon Fire Stick or Custom, none of which seem to be possible to edit manually within the text input field, those being . . .

    Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_15_7) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/15.4 Safari/605.1.15

    So, the User Agent only shows 15.4 of Safari, instead of the 17.4 Safari that you found that works. :-(

    So, none of Wayfarer's current User Agents offer the profile that you have found that allows the file to be downloaded, AFAIK? :-?

    So, how can this User Agent option be added to Wayfarer v8.6 so I can download the file from Royal Mail's website?
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    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3339 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    There's nothing wrong with HTTP/2 in latest Wayfarer. No reason for you to have it off.

    As for reCaptcha - it's something Google has changed that makes it fail. I've tested Wayfarer v4-7 and it fails on all of them (just not on Google's own reCaptcha test page, ha ha). We're most likely out of luck here.

    I've had a look at the PDF file and it looks like it's a User-Agent issue. "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_15_7) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/17.4 Safari/605.1.15" works, Wayfarer's default Safari U-A does not.

    [ Edited by jacadcaps 29.05.2024 - 20:01 ]
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    Piru
    Posts: 626 from 2003/2/24
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    I'm finding that I cannot access (download) the Royal Mail - Our Prices - Cost of Postal Services PDF as the page, well the whole Royal Mail website, is totally inaccessible if HTTP2 is NOT active, and even if it is the link for it does not download the PDF file


    The server refuses to offer the download over HTTP 1.1 - by choice. There is nothing Wayfarer can do to fix this. You need to contact Royal Mail if you want them change their configuration regarding this.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    NewSense
    Posts: 1619 from 2012/11/9
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    @ jacadcaps - I'm finding that I cannot access (download) the Royal Mail - Our Prices - Cost of Postal Services PDF as the page, well the whole Royal Mail website, is totally inaccessible if HTTP2 is NOT active, and even if it is the link for it does not download the PDF file, and also the Online Postage Prices PDF is also shown but also not downloadable, even with HTTP2 active. Has anyone else reported this issue, and is there anything you can do to enable this download to work correctly with Wayfarer v8.6? :-(

    As well as that it seems that quite often, Royal Mail's site being just one website example, where the reCaptcha click box, on their Royal Mail Contact Us (with reCaptcha response) is triggered with a left mouse click, but then never triggers the multiple image click response input pop-up, so you cannot complete the reCaptcha, so trying to send a message to the site via that Contact page is a waste of effort, and ideally needs fixing, as it does for several other websites with the reCaptcha response, which currently cannot be completed due to this issue. :-(
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    warelogix
    Posts: 6 from 2023/9/2
    From: Portugal
    Thanks, working much better now.
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    man
    Posts: 136 from 2019/11/11
    yes it's better
    little latence by moment or page are not load
    but i don't want to work too hard and that kill him (i am human not like where i was working)
    i certainly give a paypal when i it s possible
    thanks
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Stevo
    Posts: 919 from 2004/1/24
    From: #AmigaZeux
    Quote:

    jacadcaps wrote:
    8.6 out to fix the connection drop issue.


    Muy bien, thanks :-D
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1392 from 2010/1/6
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    I think, V8.6 did it !!!
    Till yet no errors!
    Thank you a lot for your tireless work and support.
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    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3339 from 2003/3/5
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    8.6 out to fix the connection drop issue.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12578 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > CPUs other than PPC have advanced quite considerably

    That just seems so because MorphOS has not been ported to similarly advanced (i.e. 2017+) PPC CPUs ;-)
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Templario
    Posts: 561 from 2012/4/28
    Quote:

    Stevo escribió:
    Quote:

    jacadcaps wrote:
    8.5 out now, should fix the network-related problems of 8.3/4.


    Impressive jaca, muchos gracias!!

    edit: still a lot of not connect (error 7), but weirdly random now


    [ Edited by Stevo 20.05.2024 - 22:26 ]


    the correct spanish phrase is "muchas gracias" not "muchos gracias".
    But yes, thank you Jacaps for this new update,there's less left to catch up with Firefox.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1392 from 2010/1/6
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    Randomly same problem as before! After loading 2 or 3 different pages this error comes again! At this point no page can beload - Wayfarer has to be quit. I don't use a proxy. Does'nt make any difference whether http/2 support is on or off.

    Edit:
    When switching http/2 support it loads again, but ofter some pages the same. Switching back http/2 it loads again and the game newly starts....

    [ Editiert durch Amigaharry2 21.05.2024 - 08:38 ]
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    analogkid
    Posts: 724 from 2004/11/3
    From: near myself
    These "Couldn't connect to server" messages still appear if I use a SOCKS5 proxy. I was using one because it was said that it brings a better network performance. Is this still viable?
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    NewSense
    Posts: 1619 from 2012/11/9
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    @ jacadcaps - as analogkid said - Thanks for your great support. 8-)

    I only said there ought to be a way to stop JavaScript whenever it was necessary to do so, but I never thought it was possible with MorphOS . . . sadly ! ;-)
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    analogkid
    Posts: 724 from 2004/11/3
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    Thanks for your great support jaca!
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Stevo
    Posts: 919 from 2004/1/24
    From: #AmigaZeux
    Quote:

    jacadcaps wrote:
    8.5 out now, should fix the network-related problems of 8.3/4.


    Impressive jaca, muchos gracias!!

    edit: still a lot of not connect (error 7), but weirdly random now


    [ Edited by Stevo 20.05.2024 - 22:26 ]
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    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3339 from 2003/3/5
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    @Georg

    You can try using -1 on AROS once you're done porting https://github.com/jacadcaps/webkitty
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    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3339 from 2003/3/5
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    8.5 out now, should fix the network-related problems of 8.3/4.
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Georg
    Posts: 129 from 2004/4/7
    Run at task pri -1?
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