Thanks.

But: I do not understand that at all. Sorry.

The Amiga-News link, I provided above, has nothing to do with YouTube.com/tv. I do not even know that. And I do not want to get know to it.

I just want to know: what do I have to set up in my Wayfarer options that any normal, external YouTube link will be opened with m.youtube.com. That's all. Thanks!

@Primax

You've selected the Safari (iPad) user-agent for www.youtube.com/tv. This will not work. Amazon Fire Stick is the correct one.

[ Edited by jacadcaps 17.06.2024 - 17:24 ]

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Done! Thanks!

@Primax

Please send me your wayfarer/settings/settings.json file.

Screenshot (will be deleted after a month):

https://ibb.co/Kxpky9N

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Hm, probably I am blind, but...some more questions:

1.) Why does Wayfarer take the step via youtube/tv? Why does Firefox not take it? Or do I not notice it because it is much more faster?

2.) After the youtube/tv website was loaded (a circle gets full) then I get to a page, where in the upper right corner I could log in. But I have no account there. I cannot see any kind of guest button there. So, how to go on?

3.) And yes, I have the default setting Safari/iPad.

Thanks!

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Youtube often serves higher resolutions for those. Not much I can do.

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What do you mean by stuck? You should see the "who is watching" screen, then after you click Guest (or log in) you will be redirected to the video page.

Alternatively, go to Settings > www.youtube.com and change Youtube Experience to Mobile or Default.

Works without any problems. Tested on V7.5 first and updated to V8.7 afterwards. Both versions work fine.

Loading itself is a little slow on my PowerMac G4 933Mhz, but once the video is loaded it is absolutely smooth and only takes about 1/4 CPU, which is insane. Commercials take about 50% CPU.



[ Edited by geit 15.06.2024 - 18:38 ]

Can anybody please explain:

if I open an external YouTube link like this one (tile link of the news)

https://www.amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2024-06-00035-EN.html

om Firefox (Windows etc), then the video website on YouTube is opened.

With Wayfarer, I stuck on youtube.com/tv - and that's all.

What happened here? What is the solution?

Thanks!

Quote: Aha! You were correct I had enabled the "Emulate Touch Events" option, and that was what was causing the issue I reported, so it was "my bad" for not realising the self-harm I had done to myself using Wayfarer. I had obviously not enabled it in v8.4 or earlier, but must have thought it would be handy to have it work on sites that needed it, . . . but didn't realise that it would cause this "adverse reaction/problem" of almost completely deactivating the "text highlighting and copying ability using the mouse" that I subsequently came across as a result of selecting this option. I will be avoiding this option now, but so appreciative that you were able to figure out my mistake, so I must say thanks jacadcaps for your remote assistance and patience in this instance, and many other issues as well!

problem with youtube
i use withcleaner that seems help but not sure
good work

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Thanks for the information. Maybe it could be optimized a little to reduce this big CPU usage on Ambient and Wayfarer in the same time? It strange to have this CPU usage to resizing windows on a G5. It should be a problem on G4 too. If possible of course.

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I can get 95% of CPU usage when resizing an Ambient lister fast. This is normal. Overlay is only used for videos.

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That works just fine for me.

You've most likely enabled 'Emulate Touch Events' in which case mouse hover is disabled. That setting only makes sense for some mobile sites (like m.youtube.com) and should never be enabled globally.

@NewSense

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I copied the above quote manually with the left mouse button from your message with Wayfarer 8.7, and it did work on 8.6 too. So, I don't see your issue on my setup... the mouse pointer changes to the ][ shape when I move the mouse over text.

Can you try with a clean setup, for example, by booting from the ISO image? Which computer you're using?

Only place where I have noticed that the pointer haven't been changing anymore is YouTube's videos.. they're not showing as links with the mouse pointer, but I guess it's YouTube's fault with their (mobile) site.

Quote:Quote:Well it's still an issue and if you try to click your left mouse button to place the mouse cursor in amongst the text, or even if it is pre-written text that you want to extract from a page then if you drag your mouse to the left or right to highlight some text with it then it just doesn't highlight the text, so you end up not being able to copy a few words, a character, a sentence or a paragraph or however much of that page's text and you end up using "Select All" to take the whole page and then have to edit whatever you don't need out from it with a different text editor, such as ShowCase or Scribble or Ed or ... etc. ANYTHING but Wayfarer, even OWB/Odyssey works to highlight and copy the text by these means, just not the current version of Wayfarer, v8.7, and v8.6, as with v8.6 or v8.7 this is currently impossible !!

In fact, a dead-giveaway is the fact that the text indicator state of the mouse cursor does not show on versions after v8.4 (maybe v8.5 as I haven't tested that) but if you move over any text field with v8.6 or v8.7 then the "text indicator" mouse cursor, that looks slightly like 2 square brackets back to back "][" it never appears!! So, you seem to have deactivated this capability somewhere in the code.

To see what I mean, if you load v7.8, or any version up to v8.4, onto the HOME page of MorphOS, and once the Home page has loaded you can use the left mouse button click-down to highlight the heading "Welcome" ... along with the following words, all in one continuous action "MorphOS is a lightweight, highly efficient and flexible media-centric operating system. If you are" ... and then you can either use the right mouse button to "Copy" the text you have highlighted or use a keyboard menu option to do the same, which you cannot do with v8.6 or v8.7!

However, with v8.6 and v8.7 you will not see the text indicator cursor, just the mouse pointer!

I hope you can follow what I am trying to explain, and now get on with fixing it, by getting it working as it should!

In the meantime, I'm not sure which is the best version of Wayfarer to use, as v7.8 is more stable, but v8.4 offers more options, but v8.7 doesn't have this text highlighting option that I use quite a lot. So, I'll probably have to swap from one to the other for whatever I want to do until you manage to get this resolved, hopefully fairly soon.

Thanks a lot jacadcaps for this new release!

I have a problem here when resizing Wayfarer window, the CPU up to 97% (with morphos-storage) and 89% for others websites...

A problem with overlay?

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I wasn't able to reproduce any issues related to this. Sure this isn't your mouse? :)

Quote:Just so you know - you've accidentally mis-titled Wayfarer . . . is it regression to v7.8 . . . or . . . advancement to v8.7? on the main NEWs thread !!
Quote: Well I'm glad to see you have advanced this re(h)Captcha feature as it is becoming the way that some websites seem to be able to exclude our (your) Wayfarer browser, and I personally would obviously prefer to see this not happen!
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I'm also glad to see this enhanced, and also seemingly fixed, though I've not had time to test it as yet, but it would have been nice to know - as a reply to my observations - in various comments from
Comment #1608, 1609, 1611, 1613 and 1614 . . . that did not have a follow-on comment from you or Piru to say that you had realised that there was this issue that needed to be fixed, as I have been watching the thread and assuming it was just me that was having this issue, when it actually seems that you knew from when I mentioned it that it/them was an issue and did not add a comment to say that they were actually problems that required fixing, that I believe I was the person who had identified it to you initially. So, I've been mushroom-like it seems . . . kept in the dark, and fed on . . .!!

Also, has the text copying (left-mouse button drag action) issue also been fixed during your browser overhaul?

Needless to say . . . I'm very grateful to you both (all) for your efforts, I'd just like to have known, soon after I left the comments, that I wasn't imagining this uneditable User Agent field, and that the re(h)Captcha was going to get some reworking/improvement, and that you'd be looking into the left-mouse-drag text copying issue, as well as some of the other issues that some other users seem have also reported to you, and have been addressed with this update

Amazing job once again!

7.8 is now out!

- Rebased to WebKitGTK 2.44.2
- Implemented a targeted ReCaptcha workaround to improve its reliability on slower hardware
- Updated to latest cURL
- Fixed the busyloops on cURL thread
- Implemented various performance optimizations in cURL
- Added a workaround for cURL regression that broke video playback and/or seeking
- Fixed PayPal login page redraw issues
- Updated Safari user-agents
- Fixed editing of custom user-agents

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Well, ebay, paypal, banking works with Wayfarer on MorphOS.. so why not use it? As jaca said you would need to write specific code to do a MorphOS exploit.

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Surely most of us have several systems. But that's not quite the point I think. At least mine are not running 24/7. So if I am on MorphOS on my G5 currently and I wan't to check email, ebay, banking, paypal, etc. I can just do that thanks to Wayfarer and don't need to switch on another box to accomplish this. If I am already on my Linux box I don't switch on the G5 to do some reading on the web of course.

The only things I absolutely need my Linux box for is watching h265/hevc video or 4K video and when I want use the web-version of Facebook. For working on .odt .docx (rarely need .xls) documents I actually have the choice of rebooting the G5 into Linux or use another Linux box of mine.

Of course I would like this to be possible on MorphOS too, but I am ok with that some of it isn't possible at the moment. So I am looking forward to MorphOS on more recent hardware too but I am not in a hurry. As you said most of us have several systems to choose from.

@amigadave:

Good to see you posting again! Stay around a while...

I really don't see the need for new hardware as a deal breaker for my needs. I use MorphOS daily for many hours for work and productivity. I have a single processor PCIe system, upgraded to a 2.5GHz processor (Chris Edwards recently created a video on YT concerning it). For most everything I do, the hardware is over kill. The only exception is certain websites for wayfarer. The other benefit to this specific hardware is the heatsink on these systems works extremely well even compared to the PCIX PowerMacs, so you can run it very cool without the liquid cooling and the other issues with the MB. These systems are totally bullet proof and great for dual screens and productivity.

You may want to start using the OS again, alot of programs have been enhanced greatly in the last year or two.

Check out, Wayfarer, Iris, PageStream, and PolyOrganizer as a start, really nice these days.

The browser works for the limited banking and other things I do with it without any issues, and as Jacek pointed out the small foot print of the OS makes it a very small target.

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@amigadave

Not sure why you think that Wayfarer would be less secure than Chrome or Safari. There are tons of javascript based attacks and or viruses that may target your PC with the goal of stealing your banking information, but there are absolutely none that would target Wayfarer / MorphOS (or work on those).

This is not about obscurity - the realistic attacks need to be attuned to specific hardware/operating system and nobody will target MorphOS users like that since there'd be absolutely no ROI on that.

[ Edited by jacadcaps 05.06.2024 - 13:29 ]