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O(mitted) W(ebGL) B(rowser) !!!!

Why won't the MorphOS Team go the Patreon model? If that is too sticky, why not the most active members of the team have Patreon pages? I'm not a Patreon guy. The only Patreon I'd do is MorphOS projects.

[ Edited by redrumloa 05.03.2020 - 21:12 ]

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That is a good thing!

:-)

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Sources will eventually land on github, I believe, but not necessarily open to everyone. For now I want to focus on this myself, with the help of the rest of the MorphOS Team. That said, anyone who feels like he can make a meaningful contribution should feel free to approach me.

The pre-requisites are mostly the same as with Odyssey (a couple of things like libicu, cairo or freetype had to be updated, but we've done this already). Other than the linklibs you need GCC 9 with ObjectiveC and libstdc++ that has threading features enabled. This project really stress tests the whole SDK and so far most of the related diffs are actually in compilers, binutils or libnix and not WebKit itself. I'm obviously cross-compiling all this...

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I guess you are asking because you want to know if the MorphOS community will be able to update and maintain the new browser, in case jadacaps becomes too busy with other projects, am I right? I recently sent jadacaps a donation, primarily to encourage him to continue working on this new browser, but also for his work on the Iris email program, and all the work he does on MorphOS itself. I hope that other users are doing the same, as it is very generous that all of the MorphOS Dev. Team members give us so much of their time, to create MorphOS and software to run on it, and rarely ever ask for anything in return.

Do you plan to make the source and build instructions available when it is released? Also, what is your dev environment now?

Thanks!

It's not about TGL. It's about the graphics card that are predominant and often cannot be replaced (aka mini, PowerBooks, etc).

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I think what would really rock in a browser would be WebGL but that requires OpenGL-ES 2.0 or better. I don't think TinyGL is up to it.

Pity Jacek,
As web playback is adequate on G5s for the most part

Really nice news, keep up the good work @jacadcaps !!

Thank you for all the donations!

This is fantastic news. Donation sent.

I would call it Pathfinder - to find the path in www.....

Before "Odyssey" was "Troy", not very helpful
How about "OWB 2"?

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Someone earlier wrote:

"Firefly (From the TV-series with the same name which actually had a rather cool atmosphere. It takes place on Serenity, a "Firefly-class" spaceship. And more important: It could also connect to Firefox and the MorphOS logo (butterflies fly) at the same time. I suppose a really cool logo could be made with this (butterfly, flames), signalling it's a MorphOS browser.)"

I like this name (as well as the TV series and later, fan sponsored movie "Serenity"). I'm sure a cool logo tying the well known Firefox browser and MorphOS butterfly could be created.

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:-D

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Excellent, well done! My G5 and my PowerBook are in storage back in the UK and I'm missing my MorphOS fix. The race is on to see whether I'll go back and grab the PowerBook before you have an alpha browser. If I was a gambling man I'd put money on me losing that bet. lol

@ jPV

Well, now I've got it!

Here it comes:

[drum roll]

-> The Browser

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Yes, it was pretty decent program.

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No, sorry, I just think about "Discovery channel" all the time when reading that.. and Bloodhound Gang's The Bad Touch song starts to play in my head immediately :D Just can't think it as a browser name...

If I'd have to pick one of those now, it would be Challenger, because it kind of would try to challenge the main stream browsers etc. But would the tragedy part be too negative issue with it :)

Although Discovery could be a nice name without my own associations, but I guess it needs some time to digest it... maybe that would be possible :P

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Would it be too close to Helios?

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Didn't know that. Well, gods/goddesses of Greek mythology then:

Zeus
Hera
Poseidon
Demeter
Athena
Apollo
Artemis
Ares
Hephaestus
Aphrodite
Hermes
and either Hestia or Dionysus

Several already used Amiga related names there. And this of course relates to Odyssey as well. Kind of popular to use Greek mythology in Amiga contexts, yes?

Someone has compiled a list of Norse mythology names here. Thor was used for an ancient newsgroup/mail reader if memory serves me right?

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Not even "Discovery"?

Eagle is another non-fictional space craft. "The Eagle has landed", the first to bring man to the moon. In the Apollo (Greek mythology) program, using a Saturn (Roman mythology equivalent of the Greek Kronos) V rocket.


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"Helix" is also used in several contexts for fictional space ships, so not only part of the ear in human anatomy...


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Hmm, maybe, but kind of a complex word. Not as complex as "Odyssey" though...

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Actually Iris probably originates from Greek mythology too :) It's a goddess who's "messenger of the gods". So maybe some other goddess would do too?


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I don't think I like these... :)

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Yeah, maybe.. one of my favourite series. But is it good or bad when it sounds like a Firefox port? And there are some software with the same name...

And one fictional spaceship too: Lexx ;) But it doesn't sound that cool as a browser name as it was as a serie I guess :)

I think Wayfarer is a good candidate, sounds cool, and surprisinly little used name for any software when googling a bit, so it would be quite unique.

Unless there would be some idea with a better MorphOS connection.. mBrowse, MWB (MorphOS Web Browser), or something like that :)


[ Edited by jPV 27.02.2020 - 14:56 ]

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Well, since Iris is probably struck from the list...



...how about Helix?



Or Columella?



;-)

Regarding "going places" (like Odyssey and Voyager), with reference to the space shuttles (because of "2001: A Space Odyssey" and "Star Trek: Voyager" and also because of "Sputnik", the MorphOS browsing legacy):

• Discovery (Also "Star Trek: Discovery")
• Challenger (developing and maintaining a web browser is a challenge, though the name is kind of stained with tragedy, and not the easiest word to spell)
• or Endeavour (difficult to spell for non-English).

Less real space ships:

• Falcon (from Star Wars: Millennium Falcon)


• Enterprise (Star Trek. No, second thought: strike that! Too dorky, even for me!)
• Firefly (From the TV-series with the same name which actually had a rather cool atmosphere. It takes place on Serenity, a "Firefly-class" spaceship. And more important: It could also connect to Firefox and the MorphOS logo (butterflies fly) at the same time. I suppose a really cool logo could be made with this (butterfly, flames), signalling it's a MorphOS browser.)

General movement, going places, etc:

• [Web] Strider
• [Web] Walker (also reference to a famous Amiga HW project, which like the comics character "the Phantom" was mythical and seen by few. The Phantom's "civilian" name was Kit Walker. Web Kit. Also there was "Walker, Texas Ranger", the Rangers "were going places" traditionally, and Chuck Norris is a mythology by himself)
• Expedition (think Safari, Internet Explorer)

Ah well, going away to do something useful now...

;-)


Edit: Shouldn't the ul/li HTML-elements linebreak?

Edit 2: Hmm, "Firefly" kind of grows on me...


[ Edited by takemehomegrandma 27.02.2020 - 13:47 ]

Wayfarer sounds like a constant source of typos and mispronunciations, I like it!

Was able to compile the whole of WebCore last night, which brings the thing to being about 95% done in terms of # of sources compiling for MorphOS. Mind that this doesn't mean I'll have a browser soon ;) The next step is writing a WebKitLegacy layer - this is the part that Fab mostly got from Orygin. Hopefully it'll take no more than a couple of weeks to have a simple webframe working.

How about Steven? :p

Well there was an endless stream of name-suggestions before Fab went for Odyssey so just wait a few minutes till TheWolf posts a link to that thread ;)

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I propose Wayfarer.