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After each reboot, yes.

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Levels of caching depend on the amount of RAM you have.

Well,I could use you browser with My PowerBook with 512MB and it works fine, I think that the browser uses more the hard disk like memmory cache.

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You can edit the frame in MUI Settings > Group > Tab Groups > Container.

What is the way to modify the Tabs in Wayfarer so that the active Tab is sort of Beige/Cream in colour and the inactive one is another colour, such as pale blue or green.

I have this setup in OWB, but either I cannot remember what specific gadget I have to "tweak" to get it to do what I want, or Wayfarer is not responding as it should to MUI Settings.

I have tried to adjust the Group, Tab options, so that the Tab Container is the more yellow colour (does not seem to take effect), and the Title option is more Green or Blue (that part responds) and the inactive Tab is then Green/Blue, but I just cannot get the Active Tab to be a different colour than the default colour/grey textured/brushed metallic.

> perhaps due to the journal you mentioned [...].
> [...] If I redirect journal to RAM [...]

Journal is off according to comment #255.

@jPV

Many thanks for your help as always :)

Yeah, I can't stress enough the importance of Quick Links bar on OWB. It enables the user to browse more efficient. Now my Bookmark pull down menu is a mess and takes the whole screen height (1280 pixels) when clicked (opened). It's impossible to locate the links fast :/

I reduced the disk cache to zero and read/writes on hd was minimized as well, though not completely gone (perhaps due to the journal you mentioned). Now it consumes same memory (more or less) with latest OWB. If I redirect journal to RAM will the sites prompt me to accept cookies each time I visit them, over and over again?

Some further remarks:

* Was finding the scrolling (up and down) weird and it's because per each scroll it moves double the page compared to OWB. Basically, scrolling distance of OWB resembles a smooth scrolling effect. Hope this can either be adjusted by the user in the future or just default it to the OWB way

* Pls, pls, pls remove the frame of active website. Just copy the looks of OWB which expands the visible page to the whole window application horizontally and at the bottom. It looks anachronistic the way it is right now to put it mildly :D

* Made some more tests and the engine is not always faster on rendering sites, i.e the default MorphOS website loads faster on OWB. Will revert with additional notes.

> No. See here.

Ah, I see. Thanks. Then it was just that the mention of the OWBAL was removed from the ReadMe of v1.14.

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No. See here.

Tested and some graphics are more defined than in OWB, mainly logos or small graphics.

Good work and thanks!

> Not everything is adjustable in WebCore, even if it was adjustable
> in Odyssey (many things that were in the BAL, which was the part
> that came from Orygin, was now moved into WebCore itself [...]).

Didn't OWB starting from the v1.14 release (which was the first release called "Odyssey" instead of "Origyn") lack the OWBAL?

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Journal is actually off to reduce the writes, but I am not going to do anything else. This is deep in WebCore and changing how it works would have huge potential of breaking things. So: nope.

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Not everything is adjustable in WebCore, even if it was adjustable in Odyssey (many things that were in the BAL, which was the part that came from Orygin, was now moved into WebCore itself and as such, I consider it off-limits unless absolutely necessary).

> I fully understand your points and agree with them. Yet my feature request
> seems small enough so I dared to state it. ;-) Of course no commitment nor
> timeframe or not even an answer is necessary as it was no question.

And most notably, your feature request is extremely unlikely to delay the initial release of Wayfarer ;-)

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These are two main causes for the intensive HD writing:
1) Disk cache (which saves page data to Wayfarer/Cache/Curl/), which can be disabled from the Settings (set it to 0MB).
2) SQLite writes cookie database and local storage files, and their journal files, to the HD without any caching. OWB writes its cookie database only when quitting the browser, but Wayfarer does that immediately when pages update their cookies. Certain pages seem to update the cookies even once per second or so, which can cause several writes per second to the HD (first creating a journal file, then updating the actual file, then deleting the journal file, etc). I don't think there's any other solution than softlink the whole Wayfarer/Cache/ directory to somewhere in RAM: (MakeLink Cache T: or something like that). The downside is that pages don't remember your personal stuff then if you'd like that, and you also should disable the disk cache too, but I'm running the browser like this myself.

I would like to see separate options to disable cookie database saving and local storage from Wayfarer settings... users could select better what they want to be written to the HD then...


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I think you mean the Quick link buttons like in OWB. This should be on the jaca's todo-list.. I pressured him little regarding this ;) This feature still keeps me using OWB for "everyday" browsing, because I have important pages set in the Quick links bar, and it's really more efficient to have a quick look at frequently used pages by these buttons than try to find them from a pull-down menu or from a separate bookmarks list.


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I guess you mean the Bookmarks menu? The pull-down menus in MorphOS (and Amiga?) are restricted to two levels, so only one sub menu will be shown and the rest are filtered. The only way to dig the deeper levels of bookmarks is to select the "Bookmarks -> Manage..." option and open them from the separate bookmarks tab then.

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How dare you! If there won't be progress with Wayfarer, we will know who to blame for it!

@amigadave: I fully understand your points and agree with them. Yet my feature request seems small enough so I dared to state it. Of course no commitment nor timeframe or not even an answer is necessary as it was no question.

It's also messed up on OWB here....

Made some brief tests, here's my first thoughts:

* Wayfarer loads about 15-20% slower on boot compared to latest OWB
* It consumes less memory per same page but I see the hd sbar module getting crazy on read/writes. Is it possible to configure Wayfarer to dump everything on ram and not the hd as with OWB?
* Is it possible to have a personal bar on gui (i.e. below address bar) where we can place the bookmarks?
* I imported my OWB bookmarks correctly, however bookmark folders which had sub folders don't display correctly when clicking on Bookmarks option
* Wayfarer seems to load about 10-15% faster same pages that I checked but I need to do more testing. However, some pages with jspcripts work correctly on OWB and not on Wayfarer. some pages that I tried but I still need Here's an example, the text after "news" seems messed up on Wayfarer.

Will return with more tests :)

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You can also do this with the middle mouse button. Shift + MMB opens a new window. Alt + MMB = Download linked file.

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Congratulations on your public release of MorphOS3.14 and version 1.0 of Wayfarer!

Another donation sent for this great accomplishment, from my tiny retirement account. Well done Jacek!

It's really incredible what you have achieved in such a small timespan! It's working great for my needs so far.

Small question:

Is there a setting where if I click a link for example and want to open it in a new tab ( for later reading ), for that tab to not take the focus?

I saw the same behaviour in OWB. Where as in my Linux machines neither Firefox or Chrome has this behaviour and keeps you on the page you are currently on.


EDIT: I must actually read the context menu when right clicking. Very first option. Great stuff!



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OWB shows it fine.

It happens when the server doesn't set correct MIME types. A known issue, I'll look into it eventually.

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Maybe it gets confused by the .1_4.jpg file extension?

I like your browser and sorry I try to see one picture like that
https://www.morphos-storage.net/Misc/Collections_1.1_4.jpg
But your browser instead of show the picture, show the binary code from it.